Sk8man

Make sure it is a north enders boat Wayne if you want a winning experience

I remember one derby way back when someone did win the thing fishing off a dock and another where a young kid caught a huge winning laker off a dock out near Dresden (probably with a reel like Sean uses...a Zebco ) but he wasn't entered in the derby and a much smaller fish won it. Oh well you guys can always sit around down there on your boats and admire Nick's styrofoam fish that he uses for his pics

Thanks Justin. I'm kinda rooting for Kinger myself....he is really the guy behind catching the fish...Ed is just along for the ride in the new boat

Geez Sean....you must be getting desperate.... calling in devine intervention from above...I can't top that.. . Great pic by the way and incredible boat....my knees aren't knocking yet though

Good luck with them.....the smaller ones will work on walleyes too.

I hope you are going to be using a deep v, deep gunwale and wide bottom 14 footer (before considering rigging it)

Good one Mike!

Thanks guys. We are very proud parents indeed. I don't know if it is because it is going to be the 50th derby (I think I have fished about 40 of them at least) but I am as psyched up as I have ever been for this one (could also be because of all the trash talking too ) Now that we've stirred up the south end guys they will be a force to be reckoned with too but I'm just hoping they get "disoriented" or even lost at the north part of the lake on the first day which will give us enough time to smoke em As long as everybody stays safe and has fun I'll be satisfied regardless of results. Hey Kev I know the father and son thing is as important to you as it is to me (although from different angles) and just being able to be out there doing what we love doing with them is what is most important and really what it is all about. Hey Mike with those lines re-rigged you'll be doubly "dangerous" now.... and John I look forward to chatting in person again this year....hope to see you at the ramp etc. again.

Yeah....get in all the "practice" you can south enders.....if conditions are right you'll need it

Pap a lot of the debris on Seneca ends up on the shoreline beaches depending on wind direction but also much goes out the canal system by way of the Seneca Canal at the north east end of the lake. It flows into the Cayuga Lake system (north end and out the Seneca River to parts east....) I believe something could hypothetically reach the ocean by this route (e.g. St Lawrence to Hudson River). As young kids we used to put notes in bottles and send them by the Seneca Canal

Pap. You made one of the top deals of your life on those spoons The guy who made them was named Bernie Klimzak and was one hell of a fisherman back in the 70's and 80's and those spoons rank up there with the Suttons. WTG

You sure put a hurtin on those fish out there WTG!

Thanks Mike....that is better news than I expected (the fish... not the break off) I'm getting pumped up for the derby.I just returned from my daughter's graduation from Ithaca College and Cayuga was total mud at the south end and was happy to see that the north end of Seneca looked a lot better than I expected. A little murkiness might help us out too as long as it isn't real muddy...I'm hoping to test out my motors and equipment early this week here on Canandaigua. I'm always reluctant to fish before the derby on Seneca because several times in the past I've caught bigger fish than those that won the derby before and after it (but not during) and that is pretty depressing