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Sean's comments are "priceless" and there is no substitute for direct "hands on" experience (in other facets of life as well as fishing). I sure wasn't meaning to suggest that books and videos etc. are "replacements" or even close to being as important as actual experience.....just additional ways to achieve some understanding some of the aspects of this specific fishery for those folks new to it or that don't live around here. Bob - I knew it was your copy because it had all the question marks in pen after every "big word" P.S. Finger Lakes veterans Sean and Ray have given some important kernals of wisdom here which you probably won't find in any video orbook Thanks guys. -
RE: the Penn 309 -You can take some pliers or even a screw driver and carefully wedge open the level wind line guide on the Penn 309 to accomodate the swivel. I've done it for years and even took the thing out on some of mine that I use with wire for Seth Greens so the bead chains come through without problem.
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I've had a few inquiries (especially from new people) about what information might be available specifically regarding fishing in the Finger Lakes - especially for trout. In this day of You tube videos and various "how to" Web based sources a couple of older but important books have received little attention of late but for the person just starting out trout fishing in the Fingers they are very important in developing a basic understanding of some of the "mainstay" fishing techniques that have spawned the more recent equipment and tactics being used in this specific fishery. One of the books was considered my "fishing bible" in earlier years and I probably learned as much from it as any book I've ever encountered and much of it (techniques) is still relevant despite being published in 1962. The other edited book is a compilation of articles by other authors having specific knowledge of individual lakes written by my close friend and fishing buddy (now departed) talented outdoor writer C. Scott Sampson. Some other Finger Lakes fishermen may know of other useful resources for this particular fishery and if so hopefully will include them in this posting so it can serve as a resource for new folks trying to get a handle on things. Although many of the more recent developments (e.g. techniques and equipment) are covered on LOU in other places reading these books before hand can give someone a real jump on understanding the "in's and out's" that lead to their development. Here are the books: Fishing For New York State's Fabulous Finger Lakes Trout by Earl Holdren (and exquisite FL fisherman by the way) Outdoor Sports publishing (1962) - I'm pretty sure it is out of print but libraries may have it or possibly on inter-library loan. Good Fishing in the Finger Lakes Region and Western New York by C Scott Sampson (Editor) (2003) Sanders Fishing Guides Incorporated
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I was told by Tuna Tom that braid will slip on the spool and that mono should be underneath the wire because of the pressure of the wire on the spool when it winds tight on it after some use. I had some major kings hit last season on my wire and it sure didn't mess anything up...with 1000ft of wire I never had ti come close to the mono backing.
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What you may want to do first is do a search right here on LOU of previous posts for all the information that has already been provided on the subject (there is a lot that you can choose your selections from). Pretty much all of what you are asking is already there.
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I'd put about 75-100ft of mono (30 or 40 lb) under the wire as backing to protect the spool and assist with even distribution of the wire on it (so that it "nests" properly.
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Nice report Nick and I'm really glad the motor renovation thing turned out so well. It has to be great getting out there after that long winter and being out of action. Best of luck this season but I'll leave it short of saying it at derby time after last year's result Hopefully this year I'll be luckier with my motor (after both tuned up ) Les -
"I'm only a novice" (Frogger) :smile: I guess we'd have to say one of the best "novices" at the north end of Seneca then... I think somebody told me once that you were out there while still in diapers.....it could have been your brother
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They are almost non-existent on many of the Finger Lakes. I think the 50 degree temp might be a bit high as they were often found mixed in with the rainbows and suckers in some of the streams I used to go to and the temps were 40-45 degrees. -
running both main motor and kicker off of one battery
Sk8man replied to youngknight's topic in This Old Boat
I've run my 9.9 from same start up battery as my 135 outboard and did so on my previous boat with same kicker.I run only my downriggers and electric trolling motor from the second deep cycle battery. By the way I was told some time ago by a marine mechanic that the alternator on the kicker won't do any serious charging while trolling slow....it has to be running at a good clip to start charging the battery significantly. I have an older 2 stroke 9.9 so the newer 4 stroke ones may be different. -
Cod Fishing Tips and Knot help - Tie a snelled hook to a leader
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Excellent tip from Thun....many "newbies" never think about the importance of staying with the bottom as much as possible at all times when fishing for these bottom dwellers. -
Cod Fishing Tips and Knot help - Tie a snelled hook to a leader
Sk8man replied to carpedium's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Instead of the way this one s set up I've always had good luck tying in three-way swivels at the two points where your knots are on the main "rig" line (1) and use standard "clinch" knots for them. I only use singles instead of doubles on the hooks so I don't get into (2) -
It does seem to be a "personal preference" issue and I'm sure many of the hardcore sport fishermen and especially the charter guys have their favorite setups and there is no one correct answer that meets the requirements of every situation. I do a lot of different types of fishing on different bodies of water (e.g. Finger Lakes and lake Ontario) so my various setups reflect this fact. For lakers and salmon (the two species probably most likely to hit meat rigs) an 11 inch flasher seems to work best with the leader anywhere from 24 inches to 36 inches for lakers and 32 to 60 inches for salmon. On the Finger Lakes I primarily use the 8 inch flashers but also frequently use cowbells to pull meat rigs (as well as peanuts or Spin-n -Glows with the leaders at 18-32 inches for each option. Much of the reason for the shorter leader is because of fishing very close to bottom for lakers and big browns in shallower and to avoid "hang-ups"
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I've always had pretty good luck freezing the cheeks in water in zip locks (squeeze out any air so totally immersed to avoid surface freezer burn). I've had them three years afterward and they were delicious. -
I'm assuming it would mean selecting something like "wanted" or "for sale" that goes before the actual topic (e.g. Daiwa downrigger rods).
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do I need to rewinterize my outboard today?
Sk8man replied to bandrus1's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I'm assuming you are referring to an outboard? I don't think that the low temp for such a short time should adversely affect it. I know you aren't supposed to actually run a motor without having it in the water but on mine I would just very briefly turn it over to make sure any water possibly in it would exit and I'd keep the motor in a fully upright position so that anything in there would be drained. -
WTG Vogel! Beautiful landlocked salmon. Josh - although the tailed looks a bit squared in the pic it has a slight fork to it and the spotting pattern extends to only just about the midline (or lateral line)... most browns the spotting also goes more toward the belly of the fish and the spots on this fish aren't really "rounded" in appearance as they usually are on browns.....they are more"irregular" in appearance (sometimes they even resemble "X's" on landlocks) If the pic looked at closely it appears that there is some spotting on the mid and lower part of the tail...on browns it is usually confined to the upper part of the tail. If you look closely at the dorsal fin it has a narrower angle to it than most browns would have (theirs is usually more "upright" and "boxy" or squared in appearance). On immature fish these differences may be less pronounced and they can be harder to distinguish. Notice also how the head is very small and "torpedo shaped" in comparison to the body.
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Nice going. I fished it from the pier itself and in the marina a couple days ago and it was spotty and all on minnows but there were a bunch of boats straight out from Kershaw in about 12-15 ft of water and they were there hours later when I went by so I figured they must be into them but in the past it has been "dink city" there for me. WTG on the crappies. Having a hard time finding them from shore in my usual spots. My kid fished a couple days ago at Honeoye from shore and caught these....the bucket lid is12 inches across. -
Thanks for the heads up Kev. It is one of the things folks don't tend to think about when they are really anxious to get out there......and potentially very costly.
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Yeah one of my buddies is moving to West Virginia ina few days....he's had it with the taxes here and the NYSAFE crap with Emperor Cuomo running the show. He said his taxes will be 1/5 of what they are here (lived on Conesus Lake).The lakes and fishing are the major reason for me being here now.
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WTG Mike :yes: -
And then there is the issue of rising cost of natural gas which we have an over abundance of but it is being sold to China and India and others which drives up the cost to us. The main problem in this country now is greed and self-interest and this"global" mentality. The Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves if they were to witness what is happening in this country and particularly under Emperor Cuomo''s rule here in NYS.
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Finally figured out why spring hasn't shown up yet........
Sk8man replied to Frogger's topic in This Old Boat
The wind was 20 mph out of the SW here yesterday Mike so I opted out for light yard work....now I'm wishing I'd gone anyway Waiting for a trolling motor tune up on wednesday. It will be tough to decide whether to fish for perch/crappies or go for the trout....decisions decisions -
Looks like things are off to a great start Rick I hope this is a good omen for the rest of us as well
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John it looks as though you really made up for the previous results on Seneca big time WTG! Makes me wish I had gone after the perch yesterday despite the wind....I figured the 20 mph SW was a little too tough to manage the drift etc. Some real good eating there....