Sk8man

That' Ed all right the supreme ball buster Good one bud!

Basically it is a Seth Green (also called "thermocline" rig....a multi leader/lure rod and reel system often 5 lures at a time) and the "jug" is a float that gets the main line and leaders out and away from the boat. Some folks use a milk jug (plastic bottle) as the float hence the name "jug rig". Hope this helps.

I met Woody Boater (Dave) at the north end launch ramp at 6:30 AM. He normally had fished Lake O at Sandy creek and also Conesus but hadn't experienced Canandaigua so we gave it a try for rainbows and browns and toured the lake a bit so he'd have some landmarks for next time when he brings his boat here. We started out at the pump house after taking some temp readings and found the thermocline was running from 40-65 ft down. We set one rigger with spoon and slider at 60 ft. and the other at 50 ft with slider as well as two dipsey off outriggers with spoons and a wire rig dipsey with mountain dew Spinny and white fly and a braid rig dipsey with purple and black flasher and green fly. We trolled the west side to Danny's ex's place and the starboard side rigger (60ft) fired and immediately a nice bow jumped in the air and took line. He did this 4 times before Dave skillfully guided him up the middle and into the net. It was a 5 1/2 to 6 lb bow and he came on one of the sk8's " nail polish" enhanced" lures on the main line ( no competition for Bob Fuller but they work) We trolled further up the west side and had another smaller rainbow on the downrigger and he was released unharmed without bringing him into the boat. Trolled on to just south of Danny's place and went southeast.... nothing....pulled up everything and started to put out first Seth Green and after the second spoon the rig line parted company because of previous unnoticed frayed line and sinker and spoons went to bottom as donation to the fish Gods (not the first time either) . Started to set out jug rig and small rainbow hit the first leader I put out before I could load the second one so we released him and then put out one side rig and wire rig again and trolled north .....drag fired on the jug and when hauled in small rainbow...released unharmed. Had a couple brief "short hits" on wire rig and then had the drag go out on the jug rig just prior to quitting around 12:30 but nobody home when we retrieved it. Didn't mark much along the way in terms of fish or bait but the fish we did mark were at about the 50-55ft mark. Here is Dave with his fish for the grill: It was a lot of fun and beautiful day and we both agreed that is what it is all about having all this in our "backyard" at our leisure and without driving for hours. P.S. I forgot to mention that the fleas were really bad.

As usual Gator is right on target with his information. I've had 10 Daiwa 47H's (metal ones) from about 1985 or 86 with hundreds of fish on them and they are still running great and they've had plenty of kings on with 12 lb test line (before fleas) and I never worried about getting "spooled".

Thanks Chris for posting that....

WTG thats the way to do up right

Very well said John.

It certainly explains the vivid green color of the water we've been seeing and may explain the poor fishing results the last week or so. Thanks Tom

I guess the short rod folks are in short supply so I'll offer my two cents for them. All of the above information is very relevant and informative and I've used both long and short rods...they both have their place in the fishing "arsenal". It really boils down to a personal preference when all is said and done. I fish alone quite a bit on an 18 ft boat and trying to net a good sized fish while trying to back up in the boat holding on to the rod and lifting the Spin Doc or flasher out of the water (not to mention steering the boat ...don't have autopilot) is a real challenge and you lose fish that way with a long rod. I now use medium weight 6 1/2 ft. rods with roller tips and 30 lb stainless wire and also braid. The roller tip assists in reducing friction at the tip, offers a larger opening for barrel swivels to come through and because I use the #8 (50 lb test Spro Power swivels) I can use fluoro or mono leaders of any length for rigs other than the flashers and Spin docs. The rod holders I have are stainless and will even support outriggers if I choose to toward the back when fishing alone and very heavy duty and they stick out a foot or so from the sides of the boat and are a couple feet up from the gunwales allowing the rods to come close to a 90 degree angle offering maximum line separation. Unlike the charters and larger boats I only run about 6 lines too which is a different "animal" than the 12 or so they may be running with a wider beam. Rod angle in the rod holders and positioning of them may be as important as rod length for line separation. Two of my dipsey rigs are usually run from outriggers (mono or braid) or TX 44 board and I run 2 downriggers with sliders usually. Anyway shorter rods may have a place for some folks like myself....and my longer ones seldom see use anymore.

Nice going Mike. Man....no wonder there was a lot of debris with Hector running like that....

Mike said what I was thinking....must be our Seneca background giving us ESP You folks have added a lot to the local fishing scene especially with the videos and reports and I'm sure the Lake O exposure helps the charter folks as well. Despite not winning the Derby....you had a successful run as well as a lot of good food from the looks of the food pics Thanks for all the info. Les