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Sk8man

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  1. Or how about the folks that pull their boat out of the water to a few feet into the middle of the ramp and then start putting away their canvas, and unloading their equipment into their tow vehicle. putting on their tie-downs emptying their cooler water etc. all the while there is a long line of folks waiting to back their boats in and folks circling in the water waiting to get in to the docks....welcome to the Canandaigua launch ramp in the summer!
  2. Thanks Bud. This is the first year in all the years I've been boating that I've needed assistance but it sure was appreciated. I too wonder why we didn't see any law enforcement boats out there this year....first time for that too....especially given the wind and water conditions ...in the past I've even had them check me out for number of rods out and license etc. Not very comforting this year.
  3. That's a beauty! and pretty nice weather as well....
  4. Not if it is the ultralight Gortex impregnated stuff.....but I haven't seen it for quite awhile so now I'm not sure if it is still manufactured...couldn't find it online just now. So either way not an effective solution if not available....I mainly use outriggers and inline boards now so it's been awhile since I've messed with the stuff....
  5. I can't get my engine looked at until tomorrow at the earliest so we basically had a 1/2 day derby with one 6- 6 1/2 lb laker and that's it. We never got to even try anything much other than throwing out a couple sets of cowbells and we were flying speed-wise. Derby 2013 was a total disaster for us. Hey at least you folks have some decent weather today to work with.... I guess everyone is pretty "beat up" from that past two days of "wind tunnel" experience.....good day to just sit back in the boat throw your lines out and relax I think that wind was pretty brutal this time around. Best of luck to you John. Les
  6. Good going Andy...sure seems strange cheering from the sidelines this year
  7. You should be able to do it without complicating things....sometimes simpler is better...I'd stay with the basics for a while before going to other attractors etc. First thing I would do is shorten the length of the fluoro leader on the leadcore to say 15 to 20 ft max. I'd try using the stickbaits in the AM early and then as you go a bit deeper when the sun getting up there use the flutter spoons (heavier than flutters...small floppy ones if possible on toplines)> The smaller (i.e. not magnums) stingers should be good for the landlocks especially off downriggers. Try shortening your main downrigger lead lengths to about 30-50 ft. and use a slider (cheater) with small light flutter spoon as well if you run into deeper water. Landlocks like steelies and rainbows sometimes come right into the prop wash for a slider. I'm a little surprised you hung up in 26 ft water with 4 colors but that may be related to the extra long leader you were using or you may have caught the belly of the leadcore or something if going at 1.8 at the time. Fish where the bait is and at the depths you are marking the fish....If using too long a lead from the downrigger it can kill the action of many lures as well as bring them up much higher in the water column than you think they are running especially when you speed up. Keep going through the bait and then turn around and go back through once in awhile pop your down rigger and let it stay in the holder and just let it "flutter" in the water bit by itself until it surfaces. Int he AM start out shallow and gradually go deeper with the depths and your presentations..remember too that when you mark suspended fish they may not all be trout of any type so if no response after several tries move out and down. Also try some bottom oriented strategies just in case they are "sitting it out" there especially near pronounced drop-offs and don't be afraid to go real deep and run lines about 20-60 ft. down over "whatever".
  8. Don, Sorry I confused you but the fixed slider releases I use do go on the DOWNRIGGER CABLE so that it stays at that depth no matter what the main line/lure does. These releases can also be used to STACK rods on one downrigger. The wire part is used normally for catfish trot lines or long lines IT ATTACHES TO THE DOWNRIGGERCABLE (it won't pull off the cable and rides up it fine when you bring the cable up). The rest of the components shouldn't need explanation. Here are the pics that I didn't have at the time of my response and I didn't want to get into details of descriptions etc. pic 1 is the setup (the rubber band is only used because of size for pic I actually use the little ones used for girls hair resembling the ones used for teeth braces) and pic 2 has other options for clasping the rubber band. Yes you can (and I have) use just rubber bands on the main line but the second options will release with or without the rubber band breaking
  9. Thanks Kev and Hermit. Best of luck to you.
  10. Not knowing more about the situation (e.g. how fast you are trolling, specifically how you are setting your lines up...how far back, what depths of water you are covering as well as WHERE you are fishing it's difficult to answer. however here are some general things: landlocks often are line shy....I'd run my lines way back and way out (outriggers, or planer boards, or inline boards) and as far off to the side of the boat as practical. The fluorocarbon leader is a good thing but 6 lb. could be light depending on where you are fishing. If it Lake O that is definitely the case. I'd make sure the fluoro leader is about 20 ft. long maybe 10 lb. test for general fishing. You are in a small boat and atlantics are arial artists so you want to be able to rein them in a bit and 6 lb. isn't the best idea for that. You didn't mention how many colors of leadcore but right now and up north I'd say 2 or 3 colors would be what I'd try.... You can always add weight too if needed if you go deeper. Troll moderately fast and do "s" patterns and lots of "turns". I'd try stickbaits in say the size of a J-7-9 Rapala and small spoons. It seems a little early for flies and streamers up north. When toplining way back is the rule and if a stickbait try putting on one or two splitshot about 2 ft. ahead of the stickbait. If using your downriggers they don't have to be limited to "deep water" use. Run lures 50 or 60ft back and with stickbaits as I mentioned to keep them down a bit with large splitshot or use a little heavier spoons or weight the light flutters to keep them below the surface. Small sized dipseys can also be used successfully in shallow water. Work any boards along the shoreline in the early AM hours and as the sun goes upward move out deeper. Hope this helps...pretty general but better than nothing I later saw WHERE you are fishing.....maybe I'd settle for 8 lb. test fluoro as it woud give a little more leverage if you hit a big fish. Not much give to fluoro...
  11. Keep your fingers crossed John
  12. Kev, "Challenging" sure is the word for it....The weather is more than frustrating at this point. I have to hand it to the guys who are sticking it out...sure separates the men from the boys this year. Seems strange to be "landlocked" this year no pun intended I hope tomorrow brings better and more productive fishing weather for all you folks out there. Looks like some of the guys from LOU are doing real well too. (Nick and Andre and others). Go get em.... Les
  13. Gee why would you opt out when the weather has been so great and the lake like glass? Oh....did I forget to take my medication today?
  14. I know Ed. They tore down the old Chamber of Commerce building so everything is totally screwed up now. They used to have their act together pretty good there but the setting is real "temporarily" set up at best right now with their little "circus tent". Good luck Ed....hopefully tomorrow will bring better weather than it has the past two days.
  15. Hey Ed that website info is pretty unclear on the site as you'd think it was current data but those are last years standings. I recognized my name on there (2nd day standings I think) Les
  16. A big THANK YOU goes out to my long time fishing buddy Bob Boerjan of the Admr Byrd boat. He and his crew saved the bacon for us yesterday on Seneca when we had main engine failure (and the 9.9 couldn't get us back in at full throttle) and had to be towed back north to Geneva (about12 miles or more) against the 25-30 mph gusts in 4-5 ft. waves. Amidst all the ball busting and trash talking....when the crap hits the fan real buddies come through for ya. This gives a little idea of it from where we sat:
  17. High quality parachute cord also works good and won't rot
  18. Hey Reel Dilemma I enjoyed our brief chat today at the launch ramp. Pretty discouraging day and weather but at least we made it out alive today! Best of luck with it! Les
  19. Just heard tomorrow supposed to be temps in the 40's and 20-30 mph wind ....not a good picture.....
  20. Unfortunately supposed to be this way for next two days....crappy timing for the derby on Seneca too.
  21. This may be one of the tougher derbies to fish if this keeps up. One year I had my snowmobile suit on for a couple days of it though,,, I kid you not.
  22. Good luck folks....lets hope the weather folks are messed up as they often are and the wind is down a bit.....
  23. A slider is a secondary leader attached to your main downrigger rod line usually with a swivel at each end of a (usually) short section of line (fluoro or mono) with a lure at one end. It can be either "free floating" or "fixed". If it is free floating it roams up and down the main line that your other lure is on....sometimes staying in the belly of the line but varying with speed of the boat and turns etc. You let your main line and lure out to the desired distance from your downrigger weight and run that lure down 10 or 15 ft. or so (depends on type of lure too). Then you attach the non lure end of the slider to your main line and let it (the leader with lure) sink down the main line. Thus you have two lures running from one downrigger rod. If it is fixed you use a release of some sort (can be various types that clip to your downrigger cable even as simple as a fairly weak rubber band) to keep it in one place on your downrigger cable with the other end with the lure (usually a flutter spoon) on it staying put... then when a fish hits the lure at the end of the slider it releases (e..g. breaks the rubber band) and slides down your main line and the swivel and lure of your main line prevents it from coming off your line Hopefully you then net the fish Once you actually SEE it done firsthand it will be a lot simpler than this description but it is one of those things that isn't easily conveyed in words I guess. TIP: keep the slider (regardless of type) a little shorter than your rod length so that when you go to net the fish you can reach it....especially if you fish by yourself The slider clip release can be many things but most of them clip one end to the downrigger cable and the other attaches to the slider leader (e.g. rubber band tied to line or line held in jaws of plastic clothes pin with rubber inserts or various commercial designs etc.)
  24. I've used it for years and years and its forerunner for years before that Berkeley Hombre which was basically a saltwater line. I had (2) 3,000 yard rolls of it and used it forever on my downrigger and toplines. It is one of those things that defies the principle of more expensive = better.
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