Sk8man

Thanks for posting. There are some golden tips and rules of thumb in that article and most of it transfers to Lake O and other fresh waters as well.

I fully agree John. The fun is in trying to figure the stuff out and listening to what they are telling us

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The ROYGBIV sounds good and may be the case but it should also be noted that it is based on HUMAN vision. We know that fish eyesight may be different than humans as they are suspected of being able to respond to UV rays etc. so I wouldn't treat the theory as the word of God either. The fact that black or purple or the combination may work well could be because they are dark and contrast with the sky as "shadows" and the action (e.g. movement in the water) of the lure may be a factor in combination with with the contrasting shape of the lure. Who really knows? What I am trying to illustrate is that we can't always make assumptions based on incomplete information just as in blindly following the depth charts may be quite misleading.

They basically work for lakers about anywhere. Everybody has their favorite color combos but I think it is the action down deep that they are responding too and they are deadly. Anyone that fishes for lake trout should have a few of these in their arsenal along with the Hammerhead cowbells ahead of them.

My comment wasn't intended to bash big boards as in really rough water situations they run better than most inlines and I started out with them and used them for years during the 70's through 90's, and you can easily run more than one line from them, but they can be a lot of work in heavy traffic so I simplified my game by using the inlines. I also use outriggers from time to time which a lot of folks don't care for but in heavy traffic folks usually stay away from you when they see them deployed. All of it has pluses and minuses so you have to try it and see what works for your own situation.

I went to inlines years ago and never looked back

I believe the lighter flutter versions may be about 2 mm or so. Sometimes one version over the other will be hammering the lakers for some reason while the other is less effective at that particular time. That gives rise to the suggestion Either way it is a cool way to fish and the technique used is critical as well. Sometimes people in the same boat will have radically different results because of it Best of luck out there.

Sutton made both a thicker (heavier like yours) version and a flutter spoon thickness version which have quite different action. Your spoons Yvon closely replicate the heavier Millers and you've come as close as any I have seen If you can lay your hands on some lighter (brass) metal the flutter version is really worth making too

Wow! thanks for the report I have been wondering about the status. Doesn't look great for an early bite right now....

It wasn't mentioned but those spoons are not really designed for trolling in the conventional modern way - they are for jerking copper on bottom (very nice job on them by the way). That is why the hook is set up the way it is to avoid hanging up on bottom. The spoons look great for that purpose but would not necessarily function well for other forms of trolling. Sutton's also had versions of their spoons in that design long before the Miller's (e..g. early 1900's and before). The spoons are best used with a victrola box and single strand wire (or monel for some folks). Often a three way swivel is attached to the copper wire and a weight is suspended about a foot or so from the bottom and then a leader containing the spoon is attached straight behind. The sinker bangs along the bottom stirring things up with the lure trailing behind on the leader with the fish attracted to the commotion thinking it is a"vulnerable" target. Very much "old school" and very effective for lake trout and the occasional silver.

I'm not on there either John. Never got into the social media crap. You may contact him at his home address however and see what arrangements are possible. The spoons are great and Jason is a good guy. He got on there quite awhile before all the crap hit the fan too.

https://www.facebook.com/GreatLakesLures/ Great lures, company and guy that runs it

Probably Ace # 4 or 5 spoons

I've had three of them for several years and they are great and also three of Troutman's torpedos which also work great and hold up. We are indeed lucky to have these guys making these incredible weights for reasonable prices. hats off to Rich and harvey