Sk8man

I hear ya Mike. Been there done that too many times there Back in the 70's and early 80's I has permission from a cottage owner there at Canoga so I could park there and walk to the spot but walking from the road near the north end is brutal. A few years ago my son and I were just starting out walking from there and in about 5 ft of water when I noticed a pressure ridge had some moving water in it and we stopped dead in our tracks and all of a sudden a great big ice floe broke off and stranded a bunch of snowmobiles and 4 wheelers out there and they had to travel all the way back to the north end to get off the ice

Mike I don't know how much ice is on Cayuga and I figure you wee fishing by the buoys at the north end/ If you can get to the north edge near Canoga where it drops to about 17 ft you are usually likely to find the perch between there and 20 ft or so about now.

After looking at a number of the charts over the years there are some advantages to doing it yourself rather than totally relying on them because there are many variables that may seriously affect the listed results such as underwater currents variations in boat speed from wind, or your particular setup. They probably should be considered as "starting points" and they do help in that regard. if you are really after accuracy, constructing your own dive curves for your own boat and equipment can involve considerable time and effort but can be worth it in the long run as you may find a lot of surprises in terms of differences from the printed charts.

https://fishhawkelectronics.com/fish-hawk-td/fish-hawk-td/

Depending on the thickness of the ice - snow (especially wet snow and slush on top) has substantial weight and for thinner ice it can be a real factor in integrity. Snow on the ice makes transporting shelters more difficult as well as walking if it is deep or wet. One of the worst factors is that it can disguise unsafe ice areas from detection (e.g. where gas pockets may be or where birds have recently opened up areas and they have refrozen)....can be more prevalent during first and last ice.

Ah OK - then Three Dogs Down gave you a good starting point. If you happen to have a Fishhawk TD you could verify your estimates using the general info he provided.

Slide divers are usually used for stealth (having the lure traveling quite aways behind the diver and boat. For 110 depth you probably don't need stealth so something like a Deeper Diver 124 mm (size#5) or a ringed magnum diver would get you down in that area quite easily and would probably be a more feasible approach. It is kinda like selecting the right tool for the job from the toolbox

Yes the launch and they came out like it was NASCAR or something.....good thing not a lot of kids like usual right there.

8 inches with about two of snow on top of it Bill

We've been talking a bit about inconsiderate folks but today was a new one for us. We were just getting set up this morning when a bunch of cars came out on the ice for a race and they vibrated the water so much it was coming out of the hole and the transducer float was bouncing almost out of it. So these guys leave so we relocated to the far south end and just get settled and a single car comes on the ice and starts racing 40- 50 mph and skidding etc. He then 'accelerates as he was approaching my son's clam and only missed it my literally inches. From my angle I thought the clam was gone with my son in it. I took a pic on my phone before he actually got there but the license plate wasn't clear. Here is the car and the clam beforehand Honeoye south end) I sure hope this guy isn't contributing to the gene pool.

I have often drilled holes for other people, or let them use the ones I'm not using but asking is certainly a courteous first step. Nobody owns the ice real estate but courtesy is something that seems to be lacking these days. In the distant past I've seen people booed and in one case punched out for being discourteous on the ice; now discourteous things just seem to be considered "acceptable" and nothing is said about it and many folks just don't seem to be learning. The problem is that there are kids and young people out there observing who may continue the practice making it more widespread. Sad.... Congrats longspurs!

And....how about the guys that come up to your holes that you have drilled in preparation for changing holes when one gets slow and folks come along and just start using them despite them being close to your hut etc. ... a little courtesy and manners can go a long way out on the ice.

Blue one looks like a Mora or older Strikemaster

Boy....they look great!

Another good reason to increase speed somewhat on turns

Thanks Bill. Those are some great eating perch Kevin and well worth the time. I'm sure those grandkids will love them

but I'd hate to be the one cleaning them Kev I managed a 7 lb largemouth among the perch today

I wasn't meaning you Scott just explaining the common problem there. I still remember back in the late 60's and 70's when it was just a handful of old timers there and no problems. Now it is like Woodstock and a lot of folks aren't real experienced either.

It is a problem at the extreme south end in front of the launch because some folks set up tip ups across the main beaten down path that doesn't have much snow on it so it is much easier to pull shelters out to fish out in the southwest corner using that route and when it is blocked off it can be a real pain to skirt way around through the snow and rough iced up holes etc. That area has been getting really hammered and mostly dinks in there now and all the sled and auger noise has spooked the good fish out deeper now. A lot of fishing pressure there.