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That is the stuff. Their Blue Label may be a little harder coated but I use the red label all the time with good results so either one is suitable for most of the fishing that we do. If you do a lot of fishing around brush piles or sunken trees they make some types that seem to hold up well in that environment or for salt water use.
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I imagine others will chime in here but I use Seaguar and have had great luck with it. You can buy most of it in 200 yd spools (e.g. Red Label etc.) There are various versions of it that may suit other types of fishing too. I have had good luck with both Red and blue label types (the red is usually less expensive). I use 10 012 lb for the Finger Lakes and 20 lb for Lake O. Whatever you do stay away from the Berkeley Vanish it is total crap and breaks very easily. There are other good brands out there as well as the Seaguar too.
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Good question although it is like comparing apples to oranges in a way (eg. they are both fruit or line) but having different characteristics so the comparison depends largely on USE. Monofilament line has some stretch to it - some brands more than others (e.g. SeaFlee has a lot while Big Game has relatively low amount). Some brands or even lines within brands are more limp while others an outer coating making them harder, stiffer, and more resistant to abrasion while being less flexible. Fluorocarbon lines in general are stiffer than most mono lines and may impart a little different action to lures as a result. They tend to be more abrasion resistant than a lot of mono lines but the various brands and specific line versions of both differ in this regard (e.g. Seguar Blue label vs. Berkeley Vanish) as well as breaking strength. One of the most touted features of the fluorocarbon lines is that is is "virtually invisible to fish" underwater. I have always been suspicious of this claim and remain so because how was this determined? I suspect that there were not many fish respondents to the question and human eyesight is radically different than that of fish. I will say however after using both types of line I believe that the number of fish strikes is greater for fluorocarbon but the reason is unclear as they operate slightly differently in the water much as does copper and leadcore. If you do a lot of winter fishing mono may be the way to go as it doesn't stiffen as much as fluorocarbon line in the extreme cold and may be a little easier to tie knots I use 50 lb Big Game mono for tying my trolling flies rather than fluorocarbon because it has more stretch which seems advantageous with wire dipsies as I have had commercial fluorocarbon flies break from the instant shock of kings hitting, but never the 50 l b mono....mainly a personal preference like most of the other issues encountered. Like a lot of fishing stuff there is a lot of marketing hype surrounding the claims rather than hard fast valid research evidence for the claims
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The main difference I have seen is that the fishing line is more supple or flexible while the leader material is a little stiffer and may be coated differently. The reasoning is that with more flexibility it should cast a little better. Some of the manufacturers make several different grades of flourocarbon each with supposedly different characteristics so it pays to try some out for your intended purpose before committing to a whole bunch of it
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MLK Day Creeks
Sk8man replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Three years use not a mark on the eyelets thus far...just checked them closely.
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I converted a couple of Okuma downrigger rodsto dipsies; one to roller tip and the other to a twilli and they both work fine.
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That is what I was thinking too. Either way the Bills are going to have their hands full next week just have to hope for the best and that Allen is on his game.
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Adding to the mystery: I just magnified just the adipose fin 1000 percent without totally pixilating the image and it does appear to have spots on it which actually look like them rather than bands at that magnification. I am also wondering if those fish may cross-breed. I thought I saw some time ago that if they did they would be hybrids and sterile but don't remember where I saw it. Fishstix is right "confusing" Thought I had it sorted out but.....
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Fishstix has a point though it is a close call if you closely look at the eye position relative to the mouth accounting for the angle of the photo (drawing a straight line through it at that angle) and the fact that the tail could be a bit compressed to look slightly forked. Another thing is the general body shape and size of the peduncle area near the base of the tail looks somewhat slender.The spotting on the gill plate could be either. The patterning of the spotting and what appears to be the absence of spotting on the adipose fin and overall look suggests Landlock though, but i think it is a 70 to 30 percent call and the only way to really fully know for sure is looking at the roof interior area of the mouth; one set of vomarine teeth (LL) two rows brown.. It looks to me with just the photo to go by a LL but it is one of the closest adult ones in pics I have looked at that is questionable
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Either way it goes my wife probably won't be able to sleep....even more die hard than me
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The algae problem (and sewage as well) has been a problem for many years. It is a highly eutrophic lake way too many nutrients. I've fished Honeoye since the 70's and I've only caught a couple Crappie that size.....wonder if they just wanted to keep it the same size as the bass limit? I could see 10 inches as there are some in that range and that is all I'd be keeping anyway.
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I think it more general than that. There are a lot of factors that have changed the dynamic including technology being used such as Panoptics and live units and the ability to clean out whole schools. For some time now there have been folks renting in summer enmasse at Honeoye for example and filling coolers because they were allowed 25 per person including kids etc.Doesn't take long to deplete populations and then year round fishing pressure maybe it is time to re-evaluate what is happening out there rather than some folks complaining about fishing not being what it used to be. . something needs to be done. I've also seen folks keeping panfish that were the size of fish in a home aquarium. The absence of inclusion of perch in the regs is mystifying.
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Ditto. Catherine's in a couple of places and the Keuka Outlet I believe.Most years there isn't enough water flow to the lake from the minor tribs and I'm not sure whether any are very suitable for spawning although the trout do go up some of them.I have always wondered about Kashong and Wilson's on the west side though. I think there needs to be quite a bit of sediment or muck present for the ammocoetes to survive long term.
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Cayuga is probably a good example of what happens when the treatment regimen is correct. For some years before the treatment the environmentalists and their supporters (largely from the Ithaca area) were adamantly opposed to it and I believe went to court over it so it was delayed for some time. It was finally carried out (and I believe successfuly). The treatment process is a complex one all the way around including scheduling of the specialized certified folks carrying it out, the stream water flow and wind conditions,. the exact concentrations being able to be maintained on the specific but multiple areas present on the target date and a host of other factors. It isn't just some guys getting together to do it on some targeted day. Everything subject to change depending on the existing conditions.
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Brian these may work (size #8) and will work with smelt as well but I would suggest #10-12's if you can find them. i got mine while at the Kittery Trading Post in Maine. They may have them on their website if not give them a call. The woman that runs the sporting goods section is very knowledgeable. Most come with 6 hooks so need to trim one off to comply with NYS regs.
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