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How are the fleas?
Sk8man replied to Fishmaster 196's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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X2 For those folks that keep looking for that perfect rod that you get the true feel of the fish fight you are looking in the wrong place. There is nothing that compares to the feel of a big laker being pulled off the bottom on copper with a Twin Minnow or Pfleuger spoon at the end of it. The sudden 'thud" ( feeling like you are snagged up on bottom) with the vicious head shaking and struggling while gradually coming to the boat all the while worrying about keeping the boat under control and possibly losing your fingers even with a leather finger or gloves....nothing in the world like it! Think I may have talked myself back into it
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Hughes 7-5-20
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Need help identifying model of cannon downriggers
Sk8man replied to Thatll Do's topic in Tackle Description
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Need help identifying model of cannon downriggers
Sk8man replied to Thatll Do's topic in Tackle Description
I still use 2 10A's and have a Digitroll 2 as well. The slow retrieve can be a plus... I re-rig things when the ten pound shark weight is on way up.. I have used the faster new riggers on other people's boats and I don't care for them. If you keep the water out of them, adhere to the 10 lb weight max, and treat them with care (all mine have the covers when not in use) they will hold up fine. I've had mine since 1985 and the only thing I have done is replace the power cords with the new ones which are a real improvement. The older ones often crack and can short out so it is worth the money to get the new ones. They may or may not have auto stop of the weight so if not just adjust the drag so that it is tight but not 100 percent tight and the weight will slip (and make a noise) when it gets to the top. It is also a good idea in case of hanging up on bottom I believe the camo coating on the Marlins was supposed to protect against the salt water environment at least that is what was advertised at the time. -
Need help identifying model of cannon downriggers
Sk8man replied to Thatll Do's topic in Tackle Description
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Need help identifying model of cannon downriggers
Sk8man replied to Thatll Do's topic in Tackle Description
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Hughes 7-5-20
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Hughes 7-5-20
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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On the water just before 6 AM on the Admiral Byrd boat. Started in about 140 ft water trolled to 270 and back in 3 kings- one on downrigger set at 100 ft with Dreamweaver 42 on it 17 lb king, another smaller one about 6 lbs on (?) spoon and downrigger around 100 ft. and another king in about 260 ft of water on wire and flasher fly Wonderbread Spinny with homemade Googly eye fly out 275 and 2 or 3 setting. Two other hit and runs with nobody home, All fish came on starboard side of boat despite similar setups on port side. Most turns in direction were from starboard to port suggesting that the fish may have wanted things run at the higher outside speed.We were running from about 2..4-3.0.Fleas were pretty bad and even were on downrigger wire.. Ran a 300 copper with magnum spoons the entire time without any action on it both from board and down the chute. Oh lest I forget. Bob caught all three fish and had the two hits.....He was driving and quickly jumped to secure the starboard side of the boat right at the start....something fishy about that....literally
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Very good points.
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Although Tohatsu makes the Merc smaller motors they are not identical. I compared mine with a Merc firsthand and the Merc is built to different specs and the frame of it appears stouter. I wanted lightweight to stay similar weight-wise to my former 2 stroke on my bracket. Onlineoutboards is about the best for price around and free shipping etc.If it were me I'd be going with at least an 8hp regardless of make. The fuel consumption differences on these new motors makes that consideration nearly irrelevant. I can hear other fishermen talking to me from other boats over the 4 stroke I couldn't with my two stroke. They seem to become even a bit quieter when fully broken in with some hours on them too or at least it seems it. Although hooking up a 4 stroke kicker to the main fuel supply is popular and may be convenient it also has a potential drawback and that is if the main fuel becomes corrupted somehow and you need to get off the water right away it could be a real problem so I keep a separate 3 gal. fuel tank as the source for the kicker and you can easily troll all day with that size tank without problem.
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If my memory serves me correctly some of the specific hookups for auto trolling devices for Tohatsu require at least an 8 hp Tohatsu I think.
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I have a long shaft 9.8 4 stroke electric start Tohatsu that replaced a 9.9 Johnson 2 stroke. The increased torque of the 4 stroke actually allowed me to get rid of my EZ steer connector for my 135 Merc Optimax (18 ft Boston Whaler) so I don't need any connector at all even into moderate wind. It sips fuel and is relatively quiet running. It weighs about 90 lbs.Very happy with it.
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An excellent choice if they want to learn about Finger lakes fishing.
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WTG Sean. I had a 10 plus rainbow here on Canandaigua a couple weeks ago that was double wrapped in the line and came in sideways and ran back and forth horizontally and it took me 20 minutes to get him in and it felt like I had a hundred pound weight on the line....so...who knows
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A 300 copper is a very versatile tool to have in the toolbox
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Two main methods depending on the particular spoon and the desired action: a) SOLID RING Ball bearing swivel smallest size practical, black in color, with a rounded snap. I usually buy the swivels separately and marry them up with a small duolock snap for best results, b) use a small #8 Sprobarrel swivel about 3 or 4 ft up the leader with a small duolock at the end. There can be slight differences in the action of the particular spoon being used based on which method is selected....may seem arbitrary or irrelevant but attention to detail can make a difference; especially when fish are "fussy"
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