Capt Vince Pierleoni

Very, very impressive!

Great effort Rob. Now lets get some more players and all go NO COMM.

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Just some additional info on this subject. The original Penn Yan boat company made some of the most durable fiberglass boats made. Already experts in wooden boats( one of theirs sits proudly in the Adirondack museum), the fiberglass boats built in the finger lakes were made with great pride and craftsmanship. The wood used was quality hardwood through 1983 models. It was shortly after that the company went through several ownership changes and quality and craftsmanship suffered. The boats built through '83 were tough as nails and proven Great lakes workhorses. Any boat, from any manufacturer could develop structural problems if not taken care of or inspected regularly.

The very best choice may be no choice at all, leaving it the way it is, but lets not shoot the messenger. I too, am frustrated with the majority wanting closed comm, past-present-future. I don't know what it will take to re-instate closed comm, but it needs to happen. All of the rules can be beaten or abused if the observer is hung over or sleeping, but by their sheer existence they make an abuser a CHEATER. History shows the fishing world does not tolerate or forgive a person or a team that would screw their peers. It may be a waste of time to take a poll when the "players" opinions or wishes are not considered, but nonetheless this is good debate. The best and fairest choice may be the 2nd one. It has been brought to my attention that in B.A.S.S. and Saltwater tournaments there are no boundries but there is no run time either. Run to "Hot" fish, pay the price. Stay home and grind, gain fishing time. Seems it could add strategy. As I have stated before, my position on all the rules discussions is I am for whatever the majority wants. I want to see GROWTH.

In addition to all the great feedback to a fair question, we need to keep in mind angler effort. Tournaments and derbies have become a vital part of the "Angler trips" conducted on the Great Lakes. No apologies needed as long as the fish get consumed. They have already provided recreation and memories before they even get to the weigh-in. After weigh-in, there are now people clamoring for any unwanted fish. People need to keep in mind that the effort needs to be there to justify keeping the program going. Not only do these events produce lots of angler effort and fishing license sales for NYS, they are a tremendous economic "shot in the arm" for the hosting counties. The fish harvested during these events also help out the DEC biologists. They are able to to look at, and get scale samples from, numerous specimens of different species of all sizes and ages. The fish harvested during the Tournys are some of the most justifiable. The "no cull" format has merit and many believe leads to less overall casualties. As for the size minimums, the current size minimum was arrived at when actual discussion and feedback was appreciated and used. It was a compromise taking into account all the different styles and approaches used in the strategy. Also, many anglers communicated it was important to have some fish for weigh in even in a tough bite.

Super job guys! Congrats on your placing.

Congrats Jerry! Your great weekend and fine finish could not happen to a better guy or team!

The Bottom Line is most rules are created to make things as equitable as possible for contestants. Opening comm creates all kinds of inequity. Should come down to who did their homework, made the right decisions on their own accord, and execution.

We are trying to bring back the very foundation for which the prestigious Pro-Am was founded. I am very proud of the percentage of voluntary signatures. after both events, regardless of their performance, teams approached me and said "we have more FUN just working within our own team" Exactly. When these events were started, they were touted as being very different from a big fish derby BECAUSE of the No Comm rule. It's a terrible shame to skew the scoreboard in any way because of open comm.

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The Chinook Salmon is the greatest fish that swims, in my opinion. Locating, triggering strikes, and of course the fight. Life changing. The success of the Chinook program in Lake Ontario was no accident. We got a second chance after Man screwed up the Lakes with the seaway. The Great Lakes Pacific Salmon program puts these magnificent fish within reach of anglers who would have never had the chance to be challenged by them. The Pacific Salmon program must always continue and is worth fighting for.

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Too soon to tell where the best bite and for what species between the bar, Olcott, and Pt Breeze. As Spring progresses typically it is better at Olcott or Oak Orchard as the Niagara will start pumping HEAT. Last 2 yrs, late June has been some of the best King fishing out of Olcott. It is hard to imagine the bite being any better than it is right now. They are definitely making up for lost time. It will be a mix of Spinnys with ATOMIK flies, and spoons like DWs if you are after Salmon. Usually 100-300 fow, but of course that can change.

VERY unofficial, 1st Lone wolf, 2nd through 4th in no order Red Dog, Get it wet, High Voltage. INSANE bite out there. Almost the entire field in both Pro and Am limited out. Great job guys!

Thank you "Players". This means ALOT to those of us that remember how it used to be, and were around when the foundation of of this format was NO COMM. I feel like when we are at one of these events we are around "the cream of the crop", and you sportsmen and women certainly proved it. It DID NOT go unnoticed the percentage of Amateur teams that signed. WOW! You guys are gamers! Tip of our hats to you!

Done.

This is for real and is in process with several working on it. Please spread the word so it's not a surprise. I will also sign for our team regardless of who elso does.

Pete, looking forward to working with you on this. Something needs to be done, and fast, as this used to be the happiest time of the year on the South shore. The Pro Ams were, and should be in the future, true celebrations of this fishery. I can no longer stand all the bashing and negativity. Time to right the ship.

Congrats! Beautiful boy. Looks like he's dreaming about tripleheaders already!

Gator, I will look into this for you. I have a set of Catalinas that have been super for me but they are 2+ seasons old. I know they have reconfigured some clicker systems to make them "beefier" for our blistering Lake O Kings that love to blow clickers up. I aquired some clarion 45 high speeds and they do what you describe. I will say this, we have boated an incredible amount of fish on the Catalinas, the drags are stellar.

Hi Bruce, I am, since 1984, a Sportfishing charterboat captain. We do what we gotta do. My clients are happy, even if I'm not. The lake has been under-stocked Chinook-wise for several years. Yes, holding pens are helping to offset the increased predation by resurging warm water species, exploding smelt populations, and the increased proficiency of todays Salmon angler, but it is not enough.

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Very well put Matt. Exactly how I, and all of my Tourny crews feel. Great to see more events going that route but for now all we have is self-policing in the Pro-Ams. Communication from competing team to competing team is bad enough, but not having a way to prevent communication with non-competing boats(some which may be on the water before "go time" is ludicrous. I was absolutely dumbfounded when "comm" was opened up in the Pro-Ams. It's done nothing but skew results and ruin friendships.