Just had "Ocho" the big 8 at 30 yards! Was with a doe when I was waking in. Had to sneak slow and climb in my stand hoping they were in the thick stuff where they couldn't see me. As soon as it the stand there he us at 40 yards rubbing a tree! I waited it out till I couldn't see him anymore and through 2 grunts at him. Within seconds he's walking right to me but holds up at 30 yards. Just stood there trying to find the deer who made the grunts. Then he turned away and I through another grunt at him and snort weezed, and the rest is history, off they ran out of my life in the thick stuff! Enough to make a grown man cry! A giant 8 pt!