I too used to shoot Copper Solids. And yes they used to be a great deal. When I first started shooting them they were right around 7-8 bucks a box. Since then seems like every year they just keep going up as well as all ammo is concerned. $24 for a box of 5 is way out of my price range. Since then I have bought and only use my Muzzleloader. Way more accurate and it puts them down. I shoot Barnes out of that and they are somewhere in the neighborhood of $22 for a pack of 20. I know that's not what you asked but just to compare.