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Everything posted by TyeeTanic
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Not a chance. Maybe 300 to 350 ft of copper. You'd definitely need a 55 for 500 ft of copper. Try the Convector CV55 if you're a fan of Okuma.
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What model Tekota line counter should I buy?
TyeeTanic replied to tedc54's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
600 LC for mono/wire 700 LC for leadcore and short copper (up to 300 ft) 800 LC for copper up to 500 ft -
What are you going to put on it? Mono and wire = 600 LC Copper or Leadcore = 700 LC or 800 LC
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I started with the TD, it's a good device. But for clarity, we should state that it isn't live info. You have to put the probe down (while trolling) and retrieve it, then scan through the temp/depth readings. So you find yourself with that probe on a seperate rod, loaded with 1 lb of weight (to get it down while trolling) and retrieving say every 15 minutes, to get an idea of the temp. If you change location, you need a new reading. And I've managed to lose a TD probe to Lake Ontario as well (on a hang up). So it's not a slam dunk decision. On the other hand, the way I attach the ST probes there's very little chance of losing it, even if the leader were to break. The trick is to NOT put it in line, and rather offline using two OR16 clips attached to the main steel line.
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I don't clip my probes on in line. I clip them on using OR16 clips to the main line ahead of all my tackle. If a break happens yes you lose the tackle as always, but the probe stays with the mainline (wire). For copper and leadcore applications I normally just run short tests. You can even take the hooks off so there's no risk of a snap off. But I do know guys that fish constantly with the probes on copper and they aren't worried. One probe will also always be on the rigger cable and connects just like the fish hawk.
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My buddy has the fish hawk which we use all the time. I had a smart troll (until I recently sold my boat). Both are good units, no doubt. In my opinion, smart troll has the edge, as you can put more than one probe at once, and you can put the probe on lines (not just on the rigger cable). This is relevant for at least 2 reasons: 1) It's good to understand the breadth of the temperature zone ... we like to know at what depth is 42F and where is say 52F. This basically tells you what your highest line should be at, and lowest line ... and you can spread inbetween those depths. 2) It's good to understand the depth you're actually getting on your wire line rods, copper rods, leadcore, etc. You may not need to have a probe on those lines all the time, but rather try it a few times, note the depths with different tackle on (the depth changes dramatically if you are using just a spoon vs. a 11" paddle and meat rig). Once you get a sense of what each line will each with various tackle on, you can more accurately deploy on future trips. The other thing I noticed is the smart troll refreshes much more frequently (like every 2 seconds).
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Steelhead question / new to Lake Ontario
TyeeTanic replied to gw2kpro's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Definitely the biggest trick is to get them out of warmer water. If you're catching kings at 50 to 60 ft, the steelhead are there are 20 to 30 ft (actually depends on the water temp profile). We target kinds at 48F and steelies come in more like 52 to 54F. The other thing is the pattern. Most of my steelies have come on white tackle, like a wonder bread spoon. -
3x paddle length. So for an 11" padle 33" is the leader length. You can use a quick connect swivel so you can change fly colors easy. Some guys ditch the swivel and put in a hoop, so they can tie the fly onto the paddle by going in through the hoop.
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Walley or Salmon Fishing? For salmon, my opinion it's not worth the money as you are not going to really be looking for structure. Yes, there is general structure to target salmon, but it's a much bigger picture ... and topo maps are good enough.
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how to piss off a king
TyeeTanic replied to hard knox's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
Kings stop eating when they get ready to spawn. Their stomachs actually shrink. Irratic motions and brite colors back and forth seem to do the trick. That's why guys like plugs this time of year. -
Are you not worried about big hooks around an inflatable watercraft?
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A good rod is the talora 8 ft lead core rod. A decent reel for 200 copper is either a Convector cv45 or tekota 700. If you want 300 to 400 copper you should go with a Convector CV55 or tekota 800.
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Back to back uni
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Smart troll
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I prefer to use braid backing as it has no stretch and does not take the wire off track like mono can. I'd add a few hundred feet of braid to get the reel completely full with 1000 ft of wire on.
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I can mark my balls on an 83/200 no problem.
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Dipsey rod should be stiffer than a downrigger rod.
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On riggers I would go with a clean spoon with 20 ft of lead out and one cut bait or whole herring on an 11" paddle, with about 40 to 50" of leader between flasher and spoon, and 20 ft of lead out from cable. On divers I would use flashers and flies. I don't ever use flasher and spoon. Spoon doesn't need the action of a flasher. In terms of depths, you should as a minimum check out this site and determine what depth you want to be in. You want to be fishing in 42F to 48F water. If you can find a slice that's around 30 ft thick with 42F on bottom and 48F on top, that's great. Speed at 2.5 mph average but try changing between 2.2 and 3.0 mph until you generate hits. Remember hits in one direction, may not mean hits in the other direction. Normally if I get hits I confirm depth of line, speed and direction, and color/bait. I then repeat, repeat, repeat.
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I live in Oakville. Probably 1/2 mile out and your in 100 ft. Water drops to 60 ft pretty quick. Lots of big salmon being caught in 70 to 130 ft.
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Uni knots.
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Anywhere from about 1.8 mph to 3.6 mph. Currents can easily be 1 mph in any direction. And as you go along, it changes, so you might need to do 2 mph in one area, and then 2.6 mph in another area. Without downspeed, you can only start at 2.5 mph, and then varie your speed up, then down travelling the same direction, to see if that generates hits. Then repeat, repeat, repeat (in the same direction).
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Depth of lure
TyeeTanic replied to pipefitterlu42's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
We fish temperature. Put the lures in 45 to 46F water. If you don't have down temp then put the lure just above fish arch. Fish generally come up to strike. -
Dipsey wire question
TyeeTanic replied to mullenj's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
30 lb 7 strand 1000 ft all spooled onto a size 30 reel.