TyeeTanic

Using them in front of lead core to get more depth, or off braid works well.

1. Line to spoon directly ... I'd think the line would get cut eventually. 3. Is the best, but use smallest bb snap swivel you can find ... I mean tiny!

Torpedo's in front of a leadcore when you need that extra depth! For sure!

My buddy uses them on his outriggers ... he uses otter boards.

The absolute best way to run copper is on outriggers and offshore planer boards ... if a fish is on, it comes off the clip and you are fighting only the fish.

I can almost guarantee you, if you tangle up that copper with a popped dipsey line ... you'll never do it again. LOL.

30 lb is basically the average line weight used, some guys go 40 lb, but I think that's not necessary. Some guys will use 15 to 20lb but mostly only on leaders, to give more stealth and spoon action (more flexible line). Need to back off the drags for that.

I think my net was 24" wide ... I sold it a few years ago, so can't measure, but it was a great net for sure.

Assume you fish Lake O. Firstly, nothing beats having a network of guys to talk to, that will help you all stay on the kings. If you don't have that, start with the Lake O temperature transects. In spring you're looking for warm water (just look for pockets of warmer water), in summer you're looking for cold water (48F is good to find) ... that will tell you depth of lake and lure you need to be in. https://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/glcfs.php?lake=o&ext=vwt&type=N&hr=06 After that you have to have your go to spots in the right depth of water ... lake bottom structure and currents is important. Before you set lines, look at the sonar for a few minutes going perpendicular from shoreline out ... and see if you find bait fish or marks ... if not, don't bother, keep looking, go to next spot. Look out for where other boats are ... go there, check for marks, look around, see if people are hooking up. If it starts getting too late, and you need to drop lines, then drop lines, but don't expect a great day.

I'm from north shore, so no, I can't comment on anyone local to you. I do have a buddy that did his boat several years ago ... I saw that boat a lot with my own eyes for three years after he put it on ... and it looked brand new ... and he never had to clean it ... maybe a quick washdown here and there, but no waxing or polishing needed ... it really looked like a low maintenance solution to me.

Have you thought about wrapping it in vinyl instead?

Bingo!

I'd say 30# is sort of the average, the go to, for any type line (mono, steel, wire, copper, braid) ... people have their reasons to go higher and lower. Examples, use lower between the paddle and bait (or higher, 40lb before and up to the paddle), so if you hook bottom, you don't lose everything, just the bait with the lighter line. Lighter on lures so the line is more flexible, giving action ... some go to 20lb or even 12 lb ... Copper or steel they go heavier (45lb) because some want a better sink rate).

OK, so are we really saying blowback isn't an issue? I think it is for these reasons: 1) You only have so much cable on that rigger ... so blowback means you can reach down as deep with that amount of cable ... and yes, I know you might ask, well how deep you planning on going ... you know some guys are trying to hit 150 ft down ... that's an insane amount of cable out on a 10 lb weight (12 lb as well). 2) Time it takes to get up and down ... blowback can add 30 to 40% more cable ... so that motors gonna be working, and you're going to be waiting! 3) If you also have your dipseys deep ... much better chance of tangles with blowback, especially if there is cross currents at deeper levels. I'm sticking to my original argument ... 12 lb minimum, 16 lb if you can.

I had a smart troll system, and I could accurately measure true depth vs. length of rigger cable out. The 10 lb weights had A LOT more blowback than a 12 lb. Based on that, I would say the minimum size should be 12 lb. A 16 lb weight is even better ... so take your pick. I would not recommend anything under 12 lb.

100%. You should have different setups. If you don't want this, but need the versatility of being able to do both on one rod ... well, he has three choices: - connect the lure directly to the 30 lb mono line ... not the best, it's a visible and stiff line. - connect the flasher to the end of a leader ... I'd be tempted using 25# fluoro then, instead of 20#. - swivel connect a 20# leader to the end of the the 30# mono and be prepared to hand bomb the fish in last 15 to 20 ft.

Don't know ... tried it once ... don't think I'll try them again. Maple syrup on rainbow or chinook on the other hand ... yummy! I always cook them that way ... put fish on a cedar plank and cook with a marinade. I actually let the fillets soak in white wine, maple syrup, balsamic, garlic and some spices for around 4h to 8h in a zip lock bag, then I cook them on the plank. I keep pouring the excess marinade onto the fillet as they cook. Then I might drizzle some maple syrup right onto the cooked fish and let it glaze on last 1 minute. It's exceptional.

Sorry I didn't assume you don't read ... if you look at my 2nd post above, I point out that I am on North Shore ... and then I said the thing about having 4 lines in the water with 2 people because I didn't want anyone to think I was doing illegally, so you know everyone would be happy in their bubbly world. But even that didn't work, because some people need to make something out of nothing ... especially when if they just read they'd understand a little more. LOL. Man it's becoming difficult trying to help people nowadays ... so many keyboard warriors out there!

Yup, lymans are the way to go for staging salmon. But I'd rather be catching silver fish in mid to end July than dirty chickens in Aug.

I'm on North Shore ... Canada. 2 rods per angler. But still even if it were South Shore ... still 2 guys ... 2 rigger, 2-3 dipseys, 1-2 copper or leadcore (depending on depths I was aiming for).

Riggers work, dipseys work and copper works. I wouldn't go out without 2 dipseys and 2 riggers in the water (and a friend to ensure I had 4 lines in the water legally).

8',6" is a good size, I don't think there's any advantage going longer and spending the extra $$$. The rod tips are going to be higher to the planer boards, and obviously the line out to the side, so there won't be any interference with the dipsey or rigger rods.