PeltHunter

I shoot the rage 3 blade 1.5 inch. I like the rage because they give you the practice tips so you can get the same flight and really dial in your sights. With the fixed blades I had even with the same grain field points they wouldn't shoot the same. I shot a buck 2 years ago with the rage and had a huge exit wound. The doe I shot sunday had a good exit wound but only one blade expanded. Double lung and corner of heart so it didn't really matter but it's kind of alarming at the same time. As someone said it all comes down to shot placement in the end. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Got a nice doe this morning. Didn't see the movement of yesterday like I thought I would with the cold weather but there was a lot of does around and a few smaller bucks.

Scratch that maybe I just saw a monster 10 right up a does rear. Too dark yet for a shot.. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Scratch that maybe I just saw a monster 10 right up a does rear. Too dark yet for a shot.. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I think it'll start kicking up this weekend with the smaller bucks chasing like crazy. As usual gonna have to be in the woods that first week of November for the big dogs being dumb I think. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Seems to be a lot of deer activity today. Saw a ton of does 2 6's a small 8 a 5 and a nice big 8 this morning jumped the string and backstrapped him unfortunately and fortunately as he'll live on. Found the arrow and looked for blood but it was meat and fur. Same does this afternoon and the 5.

I own part of the land I hunt on, my father and I had to buy it to get the two other pieces together, as for "my deer is bigger than yours" I don't think very many have that mentality I know for a fact that if anyone in my family harvests a large deer everyone is happy for them. Its not about competition its about having quality deer now and sustaining more quality deer in the future.

Here are two of the bigger deer that we have taken there are two tracts of hardwoods that the bigger bucks lock down in during the season and that is why we can get them, the other side of it is no hunting. Everything that is taken around there is much smaller because people shoot the first antlered deer they see instead of taking does. Just showing what came from a 15 acre plot and shows the potential with better management for the deer in New York. And the 9 point was not shot by me I was 14 and shot my first doe before dark the night before and was going to find it with my uncle and he shot it out of my scope lol.

That center section is where most of my griping comes from, most areas you will see 25 does per buck so why not shoot one of those does instead of the 3 point buck that walks past you just to say you got your buck for the year. When I'm hunting to fill the freezer I'd much rather shoot a 165-175lb mature doe than a 125lb 4 point to say I filled my antlered tag.

The people saying some hunt for meat like I said most sections you can get at least 2 doe tags a year. As for sport versus harvest I hunt for meat as well I shoot usually a doe or two a year and my dad does the same at that point you have a pretty solid freezer and it shouldn't be as hard to be picky about a mature buck vs a 1.5 year old. I hunt the western part of the state, a 100 acre mountain side near Albany and a few hundred acres in the Adirondacks and hunt with the same mentality anywhere. Obviously there is less deer seen up north but that has to do with the bs logging restrictions and such which could be a whole nother topic. As some said taking an Ohio type system could work as well but I think some sort of size restriction would help with that as well. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with shooting a 4 pointer to feed the family but if there was more 8's and 10's running around 4 pointers wouldn't have to be harvested.

I agree that 110s and 120s were generally not big enough to be shot but they were also shot by me and my brother from 14-17 I haven't shot a deer since then but let several walk. As far as the small acreage there is absolutely nobody around practicing QDM we just happen to have the one of the only good thick hardwood plots in an area that is predominantly agricultural fields so we see most all the deer in the area at one point or another in the season.

"Last year some 129,000 antlerless deer were tagged by hunters across the state and more than half of the 114,716 bucks taken were less than 2.5 years old" That was a quote from the Game & Fish deer forecast for 2014 in NY. In my honest opinion there is no reason for that especially with the fact that you can shoot 5 does a year and thats without transferring any DMP's. New York has the potential to be a quality deer state especially in the central/western sections most of us hunt on the 15 acres I hunt near Canandaigua we have been able to harvest deer at 145 and 173 inches in the last 5 years and several 110-120s. In my opinion there should be a 4 point on one side limit as a lot of 5 and 6 points are still small 1.5 year olds. Have 14-16 year olds exempt from this to keep their interest up and not get them discouraged from hunting. Between reading that quote from the article and seeing the 4 and 5 pointers that have been harvested this year I just figured I had to blow off a little steam.

I think the big thing is theres so much opportunity for killing a ton of does for meat that theres no reason to shoot a small buck. Personally I'd take 4 does over one year and a half old 4 point. You can say you can't eat the antlers but at the end of the day getting that smart old 140 inch 10 point into range and passing up everything smaller than an 8 is a lot more rewarding than going out and knocking over the first dumb little 4 pointer that walks up to sniff the tree you're sitting in. After you let those 4 pointers walk 5 years later most deer you're going to see are "Trophy bucks" and you'll be shooting 130 inch deer just to fill the freezer.

We have Moultries and Wildgame Innovations. The Wildgames have been hit or miss sometimes working for half a season sometimes going for 5. As for pics of deer harvested we have harvested several deer we never saw on camera including a 173" 15 pointer that was a ghostly image in the far back of one picture. As legacy said watching crop patterns and such does make a huge difference. I have an 8 acre spot I hunt near Farmington that is the only spot in the area with hardwoods, if the surrounding fields are beans that year you'll see deer the whole season, if they are planted with corn however you'll see alot less of the mature deer until the corn comes down.

Did 2 kings 21 and 19 Saturday in 120 feet right near the bottom. Sunday night took two kids out that go to school with me at Oswego and had never caught a salmon did 2 more 19 and 13 in 100 feet 97 and 80 down on a glow frog and hammer fly and chartreuse and screamer 2. Monday didn't move a rod. Didn't go out Tuesday. Did two browns on a green and black mag spoon and a ff 65 over 100 and 225 wire over 100. Broke off two kings one major that straightened out or broke the swivel from the fly to the spin doctor which I'm still baffled by. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Did 2 last night 125 feet between the lighthouse and the school 90 feet down and 200 ft wire. The wire fish was red from it's gills to it's tail so they're there just right on the bottom Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

I have the Troll Pro have not used it yet because I'm kind of nervous about all that extra stuff going on around the ball if it will affect strikes. I think what we are going to do is get some lead, oops I mean steel, and fill the front of the troll pro housing with it and use it as the down rigger ball.

Chad on Son of a Gun had 28 bites and landed 16 today I know that. I didn't fish today but there seemed to be a lot of boats right out in front of the school probably in between 2 and 300

Fleas aren't bad at all Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

We have about 5 little outboards laying around so we started fabbing up a little rig that we can stow in the cabin in case anything like that happens again

Radio station for help is gonna be 16 and the Coasties will redirect you to 22 when they send out the radio call. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United