To answer your questions, I've caught many steelhead with lamprey wounds fresh and healed in the tributaries, and have caught atlantics on seneca lake with lamprey still attached.
Lamprey treatments and baitfish monitoring have been going on in the Great Lakes for decades, long before the national debt skyrocketed. Cutting these programs won't do much to balance 37 trillion worth of debt, but it will do a whole lot to ruin your fishing, and the local economies around the lake that depend on it.
Why are you even on a website that is about fishing lake ontario then, if you're cool with the whole thing going away? Without lampricide treatments and the baitfish assessment that USGS in Oswego does yearly, that's what you'll potentially be looking at.
Yeah that seems to be the situation as you described there. Noticed the curly leaf pondweed back in June forming a ring around the deep edge of the lake. Once that died off, initial weed growth was only moderate until the herbicide treatments which seemed to kill most of the deeper weeds remaining around the lake. Better weed growth was in the extreme north and south ends in shallow water but a lot of that stuff didn't seem the healthiest either.
Seems the herbicide treatments might be doing more harm there than good.
Those early weeds were gone by the 4th of July. Herbicide treatments happened there late June, was a flyer at the launch after it happened. Noticed very little weed growth anywhere on the lake July through August and very stained green water. East side had lots of decaying algae. Haven't been back recently but may head down there this weekend and can give an update.
When you're referring to DEC, I'm assuming you're specifically meaning the environmental conservation officers (ECOs) and not the entire department of environmental conservation (DEC) as a whole, correct? Just for clarification for everybody that may be contacting their reps
It was a major league fishing (mlf) tournament with the catch weigh release format, so they were allowed to fish it before the traditional opener. Not without its issues as multiple anglers were penalized in that tournament for foul hooking fish off beds, catching the same fish more than once, etc. Maybe tourney fishing during the spawn in any format isn't the best idea...
I think a lot of the problem isn't necessarily fishing for spawning fish as it is catching a spawning fish, then taking it off it's bed down the river 10-20 miles to a weigh in, or taking it home to eat. All those eggs are Goby food unless the bass gets released back right away to guard its bed. The catch and release season has been in place a while now on lake erie without the population crashing, so one would think the st. lawrence would have something similar and maybe extend it till July as the spawn is later up there.
Would be a great idea. Canadian side already does this. Catch and release season from January 1st-May 10th, then closed to no fishing until first Saturday in July...makes a lot more sense to protect spawning fish up there as the majority spawn from mid may to mid june on the river.