U don't need rollers or twilly tips for copper, lead core or wire. Get a couple okuma classic pro glt leadcore/copper rods and the appropriate sized reels for the lengths of copper/core. Penn, tekota, etc. something with a high retrieve rate for a reel helps when bringing in a long copper setup. I use shimano tdr rods with Magda pro 45lc spooled with 19 strand torpedo wire without any issues