Chas0218

Last I knew they were fishing from clines point towards the Isthmus in 30-60 fow. Like said earlier there are a lot of old timers (no offense) that know the walleye migration better than the back of their hand and if you find 4 or 5 boats trolling the same area it is usuallly for walleye. After the Ithmus area they normally migrate out to fox and grenedier island. I think you need a Canadian fishing license for grenedier. After they leave the Ithmus we generally start bass and perch fishing. In July it isn't much to catch 40-50lbs. worth of perch. The bass fishing has been quite grim over the past 3 years but when you catch some they are slobs. We caught 4 5lb+ Smallies in a few hours worth of fishing one day. I am looking for that 6lb smallie for my wall.

They only have shallow divers left.

I know they still sell some of the prizms but unfortunately they do not sell the deep thunder stick Jr. in prizm or I can't find them. I like the black prizms for walleye but there aren't any places that sell them. They are still selling the larger ones but the smaller ones are coming herd to come by unless you buy vintage storms on ebay.

I have been looking for specific baits and just remembered that Storm was bought out by rapala. Rapala did the dumbest thing ever and got rid of all the prizm style baits storm used to make. Well with that being said I found a company that now makes those baits called Kaboom lures. The guys that work for Kaboom used to work for/own Storm before they were bought by Rapala. If you don't have some take a look at them they have always been real big producers for me with walleye and trout.

what colors are you running? I have had most of my hits on black back silver body Rogues and Black prizm thundersticks (no longer made.)

Ya no one likes to share any info which is discouraging. I fish it a lot and in the past have done great and can locate the fish pretty easily but with my father-in-law putting me to work and not being on the water much it has been tougher to find the eyes. That and they are moving out of the bay really fast. We would catch them in front of Shangrila on memorial day weekend but they have already moved to the isthmus. This weather is crazy right now. I was spin casting off F-I-L's dock and caught a nice 10" rock bass and another 2.5lb largemouth. The weeds are horrible right now, I think it's becuase of the boat traffic.

Anyone catching eyes in the bay still? I was up there over memorial day weekend and saw some guys out trolling shallow in the bay but I figured they were picking up bass and pike. I went over to the ithmus between 3 mile bay and the penninsula caught a lone brown but no eyes. With the mater temp I would not be surprised if they have moved out to genedier or fox island.

Where we are on the lake 18" higher right now would bring up the water to about where it should be. We have to push our dock so far into the we walk a good 10' out from shore just to get to the end. The cradle for my boat needs a nother section just to get my boat far enough into the water.

There is a Fingerlakes section on this site. You should give it a look to get some tips and tricks for the area your planning to fish. What makes this sport difficult is every body of water is different and different techniques are needed. Granted there are similarities but different bodies of water have differently acting fish. If you can try to start out with cheaper (but quality) equipment that will save you a bundle in the end and some of the stuff can be homemade (check out the tackle and techniques section.)

Planers are a good investment for any boat. I prefer the mast with larger boards but on a smaller boat the in-lines might be easier. The yellow off-shore boards work great for pulling heavy lures and leadcore. I had a friend with a 16' starcraft (row boat) and 9.9 4-stroke that we caught a ton of walleye out of. I myself have just started back up fishing for trout mostly because my father used too and he is "too busy" to get his boat out so we pile on mine and troll for hours on end. Start off buying a few boards and look into the cabelas depth master rods and reels Whuppin stick combo Depthmaster Combo. They are cheap but are great for beginners. Just run some walmart big game 30# mono and you are in business. The line counters work great for figuring out how deep you want to run. These are the boards I was refering too they can also be purchased at Dick's sporting goods In-line Planer boards. These style boards clip right on the line.

Same thing happened to our family except my grandfather and and this other guy's father co-owned our hunting camp. The other guy's father passed and "left" his half to his son. My grandfather and the son never saw eye to eye mostly because my grandfather always kept up the place and fixed everything where the other guy just came to hunt. In the end we sold our half out to the guy because we had enough of the headache and the guy's BS.

There is a saying that my grandfather told me. "The worst ship to be on is a Partnership." Take it for what it is worth. I would suggest saving your money and buy a boat you can afford and just have your buddy split everything when you both go out. Also consider things like breakdowns, if you are driving the boat and something happens are you both going to pay for the repair even tho he wasn't there fishing. What about families, is there enough room for both families do your wives mind sharing time on the boat or want to be able to go fishing without the other family. There is a lot to consider. Granted there are a lot of pluses but you have to look at both sides equally and don't kind yourself with the we can work it out if it happens scenarios, because it will happen at some point.

On average we run 9 lines 4 on boards 1 on the Downrigger (only have 1 rigger right now.) That is all I want to mess with at this point.

Thats a sweet photo. Its too bad that was a nice pike. He bit off more than he could chew...

You guys gave me a lot to think about. I think I need a few more gadgets for the boat before I start my business. I don't dock my boat but trailer it to where I fish so dockage fees are non existent (it also helps having a father in law with water front property.) I will research costs before I dive right in. I am a school teacher and have summers off so for me to charter during the week and weekends won't be too hard and I will have a 2nd income. [ Post made via iPod ]

I am planning on doing the same but need to talk to local guys in the lower st. Lawrence or sodas point area.

Right now it isn't like your saying more than a depth and what port your leaving. I mean if you started giving GPS coordinates it would be something different. But for some useful knowledge like colors of baits and what port isn't worth paying for in my eyes. I have no problem offering up some good advice as long as the favor is returned.

x2 on the bait runners. Okuma makes a nice bait runner reel. I use them in Florida and they work awesome!

haha I was almost going to look for it but then realized the sarcasism. We were using deep thundersticks, and jr. in the same color combo.

I heard 8lbs. and change won. We didn't enter ourselves in time but had a 6.25 pounder as our biggest for the weekend.

Check out my report: Chaumont Bay Report

Smithwicks storms and rapalas in natural colors (black silver, blue silver, perch)

The plastic ones at gander suck majorly. I have seem them in choppy water and they run like crap along with flipping and tons of leaping. I run homemades and they are awesome. They do take a little adjusting to get them running right but well worth the extra time it takes to make a set. Plus the cost savings offsets the effort IMHO.

I am a Technology teacher and have summers off so I am thinking this is the perfect opportunity to use my fishing experience and enjoyment of others catching fish to become a charter. What are the classes would I need to take? Also what about boat insurance and all that jazz. I would need liability and such but is there any special insurance I would need seeing how my boat is used for sport fishing? Do any of you charters have multiple boats under the same charter? This might end up being a partnership but financially independent from one another. In other words same charter just different boats and captains. Thanks for all the help in advance, Chas