irishbailey86

sutton has a plater again...they are stocking up their shelves in Naples... i just drove down and bought a couple dozen....Str8 from the sorce

thats a good start...

TWILI ... !!!!! love em. made a couple custom rods with em on top this year , one was a 9 footer with a broken tip bown to the second ring....twilis got many size coupling....fitted perfect and now ive got a working rod again. now i just need reels and coppa....im thinking Tekotas, but my pockets are whispering Okumas...lol

mmmhm.. apadting this rig to pull with copper by hand on a victrola for jumbo yellow perch on Seneca......Kill Bill Vol. 7 lol retrofit A. rig to meet my needs,grubheaven im going to name it. perch killing machine.

yea. in the spring b4 the rollover and mudlines start moving out I can see the bottom clear out to 60 foot or more some days!.....THE QUAGGAS are the new threat now...some spots u cant even find the smaller zebras anymore, the shoals are completly taken over by quaggas. We can thank our commercial vessels and Big Boats and Yachts that travel the intercoastal for that one!.....whatashame8(... We still have alot of shiners and Alewives in Seneca...springtime laker and perch fishing i pull them up with minnows falling out of their mouths and their stomachs are stretched out cuz they are so full.

SUCKS, !.... Im under 30 and ive never had FLakes smelt...just that frozen boxes stuff that is good but farm raised i bet.....id love to know what its like to see a barrel full of smelt! in a pool or shallow creek @ my lake lot.....let alone in my smoker! but those days are gone i guess. 8(

all i know is they taste great and anyone who is willing to go out in the middle of the night to get them, let alone knows where and when to do it shouldnt hear any greif over it....if they are infact an invasive species then who cares......weve got native baitfish too.....they are managed. i hope!.....if they got overfished it was because some scumbags dont know their limits......take what u need ,haste is waste......if i saw a pool full of em id jump right in and fill my pockets but i wouldnt clean em out of the creek!....i dont think that my generation should suffer because guys wanted to exploit the fishery back in the day.....i know how it used to be and ive heard storys of buckets upon buckets full of smelt being taken from seneca and cayuga tribs by guys who didnt have any ethics....still happens but not to the decree that it used to b/c they are overfished and harmed by other dec programs.....it is what it is i guess, we pay our dues to have a license and we should be able to smelt! too bad our state wont recognize them as a viable species. sounds like just another NYS headache we receive for paying outrageous taxes and fees to get the short end of the stick when it comes to our wildlife preservation.

funny because i have caught mannny A carp with fathead minnows fished under the dam @ Mays Point in Montezuma....so id say they all feed the same. opportunistic.

perch off a sunken barge on the bottom in over 200' of water....pull em up so fast that their gullets pop outa their mouths a couple inches!!!

haha...that blows....good u got on top of them....the wind died down for the last 3 or 4 hours of the day...would have been great fishing i bet...i was down at lake lot cleaning out my boat as it was seasonable warm....and sunny. im going to go out next weekend and alot the following week...things should be picking up by then i hope....let all of this mud and runoff work its way out...when the lake clears up a bit they should be easier to get....last year around this time i was out on seneca when the wind changed and i saw a helicoptor hovvering over towards lodi.....turns out that day a 15 or so ft. boat had capsized b/c both bilge pumps failed......this time of years its ruff....be safe and stay warm...

it may go down the rest of the year.......but b4 the major spring turnover in Seneca.....like NOW and the next month or two maax....themudlines stay high.....moving dead bugs and such into the mouths of creeks and bays they dump into.....sometimes i have sucess fly fishing mudline edges in 15-30 foot of water with streamers....or dead drift SUPERWORMS...a monster mealworm u buy @ pet stores....PETCO is where i go in Canindagua....killer Landlocked salmon action.....once ur on a school of them pull out the silver and black stickbaits......and draw them in to coax them with the fly rods.....small boats anchored or drifting can get the SHALLOW L.L's without spooking them off....ive had 3 and 4 fish days doing so,,,targeting perch....settling for salmon cruising the shallows and creek chanells near bays.b4 the big turnover when the bullheads bite from shore lakers, &L.L.s are cruising with the perch.....

i didnt beleive it @ first either....then some old guys told me just follow the outside egde of a mud line as it moves...I did and u can see right under it, the temp difference iin the water makes the two layers seperate like clouds!....imagine that.but im shure light quality and reflection on bait/lures is drastically effected by this mudline.....so id say when fishing in it or near it maybe a minnow tipped jig might help, couldnt hurt i dont think....ive found tho with the biig jumbos less is better....one jig per line and small hooks....It's fun to pull them off sunken boats or piles in 100+ ft water...they come up so qwik that their gullets pop out of their mouths a couple of inches...weird lookin'

the rain will definitly move the fish that are near the creek mouths......depending on which way the current is moving the mudline......north or south id concentrate first on the side that isnt mudswept....most times tho the mud is only on the top 4 or 6 feet....below that its clean water....

lmao...the first step to recovery is admitting it!!!!!! just kidden. hopefully that rig will put u some jumbos in the boat.

the ultralight rig i described is what the curcuit pros on seneca use, one of em taught me about five or six years ago and its been game over since then.....never let me down, thats why I laff@ the guys that come to fish seneca with NO knowlegde of the schoolin' grounds with a twenty foot boat and mercury 200hp four stroke and 100 dollars worth of fatheads in their livewell, I get-r-dun on a 12.5 foot high side john boat with a 6 hp two stroke, hummingbird sonar and transom mount trolling motor retrofit to the front deck with a foot control, and a homemade electronics box with light up compass, cd player, radio, and ship to shore radio!!If u see me on the water u will know it!!!! ive got the most decked out johnboat on the lake!!!The sherriffs partol boat whoops out their NOC's everytime they motor past cuz they dont beleive the ear busting LOUD jammin tunes and screams of "FISH_ON" are coming from my tiny vessel!.....i know where to go most of the time, if not i can always figure sumthin out to put em in the boat.....and all i need is an ultralight with the previously described rig and maybe my victrola with some small flutter spoons and i fill my johnboat in no time. 10 % of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish.....are you a 10%'er???

No problem bro, U still gotta get out there and find them!!!!!the gear is no good if u can get on a nice school and stay with them.....I was driving home from sampson state park yesterday....went to try and put another slaying on the L.L.'s from the wall by the mouth of the marina....caught and released two juvies...nothing worth bringing home for dinner, let alone appetizers......but back to point i saw two boats on east lake road that were out perching i beleive.....one i could see was anchored in maybe 30ft of water......im a west side perch fisherman so idk what the subterrain is on east side......im going to get back on the water next week weather permitting and do some searching north and south of Kashong.....ill post ne news i can come up with.....usually theres some good jack perchin' all up the west side in the early spring b4 they go into the shallows to get it on....

there is a spot in front of the REAL sodus bay in front of the trailer park just to the west that has been known to put out some sreious smallie s...

http://local.yahoo.com/info-11638957-ra ... ery-geneva Rancho Upholstery in Geneva....hes oone of the best around...he does $50,000 car re-upholstry's....boats......campers....nething with a canvas....hes een doing it for over 20 years and hes quite experienced ive never seen his small shope empty, theres always a boat of classic car outside waiting for him....

no prob. just experiment with jigheads....some of the new shank styles and colored shanks atop the multitude of colors and colored eyes to choose from are nice to feel out. if one combo wont work another will.......my producers in seneca have been white jigs with black and red eyes....purple with black eyes and black with yellow eyes....i dont change my colors on the grubs too often...either a greenish or orang/brownish Pumpkin color...earth tones do numbers on our perch...idk why solids dont put out as much, gotta have the speckles in the grubs. muddy water from runoff i run blacker bodys, whereas clear water away from shore i use the clear based/transluscent greens and light browns.

yeahyer....sutton is back at it like a crack adict.....finalllly!

this is basically it...i tie a figure 8 instead of palomar, im not worried about the knot strength as i re-tie often due to the mussels. Leave the tag two to three inches long instead of running it in-line like this pic shows .just put a jig head on it and keep it up off the bottom of the rig anywhere from 12inches to 18inches..sometimes i run two on one rig...one high and one low...shouldnt need anything more than 5/8 ounce lead @ bottom if u are running ultralights with 4-6lb test....bounce it through an active school and ur bringing home diner.

15"+ jumbos are not uncommon in seneca ...good eating...good luck

ive got some other tricks for catching them, im trying to focus on pulling more perch out this year with my victrola handline...horizontally trolled crappie style rig-homemade...doubles and triples on a single strand of coppa'...fun fun

idk about launch fees seneca lake state park in geneva is free....watkins should be free as well and severne pt......

no threeway...i just tie a figure 8 in the line up your desired distance and leave a tag loop a couple of inches long to tie on your jighead, tight line with only a three inch or less tag that your tied onto makes for great feel on the bite...they take it and run and are hooked b4 they know it....... you can drift over the schools i stay just inside their line.....casting from atop the shelf across the school into deeper water and retreive through them....bouncing bottom the whole way and your mr twistee or powergrub is just above them ....its just a matter of staying with the school..