You're right Rob, I was talking about the coated mono. So you think it is tough enough for leadcore and up to say a 450 copper? I really don't have much interest in running coppers much longer than that. Also, does anyone ever split a copper? For example, putting 10-20 ft of mono at the 300 mark of a 450 copper to in effect get 2 rigs out of one rod. Or is that basically tackle suicide?? I am on a limited budget (like everyone else ) so the more i can do with less the better.