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Something Strange in the water September 10!
Ric66 replied to garrymny's topic in Open Lake Discussion
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X2. Just learned about Veri-Veri sauce this year and its a great easy way to make salmon on the grill. Just don't overcook it like I did yesterday Another great way is to soak fillets in soy sauce for 15-30 minutes, then slab on some kind of creamy salad dressing- ranch, Caesar, Thousand Island, etc and then coat with bread crumbs and put flesh side down on grill, then flip and let cook till done.
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Exact same thing happened to me and my friend on Hemlock. That lake is bad since you can't see what's coming over the ridge. Didn't have iphones back then to check radar. And like Lucky said, lightning can strike 10 miles away from the storm and if you can hear thunder, you aren't safe distance away.
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Fished there 2 weeks back and did very well on the lakers. Could not get any salmon which was new for me. Fished near King Ferry to the power station. Wire dipseys set on 2 with 125 to 150 feet out with flasher and flies. Downriggers between 60 and 90. I fished early morning mostly. Boat speed between 2 to 2.5 Fleas not too bad.
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Dragging the bottom?
Ric66 replied to lfoster607's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
It is an ever learning hobby but so rewarding when things start to work and this site has helped me so much. Definitely invest in wire dispsey rods and put flasher and flies on them. Honestly, if I had to leave either my dipsey rods or my downriggers at the launch, I'd be waving "bye" to my downriggers. Maybe its because I have more confidence in my dipsey rods when I fish Lake O. I'm not sure about this but I wonder at times if there is too much bait, our offerings go unnoticed. One other suggestion I would make that helps me with my small boat is to use lures that have a wide range of speeds they will work at. That's because with a small boat you get tossed around a lot and it's harder to keep your boat moving at the same speed. I use medium weighted spoons and Spin Drs. For me these seem to work the best especially when speed control is an issue. Keep posting to let us know how you're making out. -
Dragging the bottom?
Ric66 replied to lfoster607's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I fished Cayuga all last week and had no problem getting lakers to hit on downriggers and I was fishing no where near bottom. If you want to catch really big lake trout then the bottom is where they will probably be but if you are looking for the 3-5lb then you don't need to fish bottom. And you will occasionally get a nice laker OR a nice salmon fishing shallower. I have a 17 foot boat and speed can be an issue. I use a kicker motor and one or two 5 gallon buckets if needed to slow me down to 2 to 2.5, although usually not needed on Cayuga. Someone mentioned dispy rods- the best friend to small boats. I use wire dispy rods with the diver set on 2 with anywhere from 125 to 175 feet with flasher and flies. Early in the day is best. I also use flasher and flies on the downriggers. I am with you- I would get very nervous with my downrigger ball close to bottom on Cayuga unless I knew the area I was fishing like the back of my hand. I've been surprised way too many times on Finger lakes and how fast things shallow up. I caught a downrigger ball on Canadice many years ago on a tree. Not fun. Good luck and let us know how you make out. -
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Braddock- Monday
Ric66 replied to Ric66's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I usually run a leader that is about the length of the rod I'm using. I use either a snap swivel or sometimes use this wire connector- don't know what they are called but they are used on the Finger lakes when guys are using Seth Green multiple leader rigs. At the other end I just use the snap swivel that comes with the flasher- Spin Drs mostly on my dipsey rods -
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Love Arima boats. Wish they would start selling them around here. Back to the issue....I hope there is nothing harmful in this algae since we'll have kids swimming there next week when we rent a cottage. I know there are some harmful ones out there and I guess there is no way to tell the difference between harmful and not harmful ones just by looking..
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Braddock- Monday
Ric66 replied to Ric66's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Went out solo and set up about 6:30pm in 100ft of water with a stiff north-east wind. Since there was a good chop decided to go aggressive with my presentation and put two dipsy rods out with flasher and fly, one set at 2, 175 out and the other at 2, 150 feet. That rod gets hit hard and the fish takes 400 feet off my rod. I could tell this was going to be my biggest salmon ever. Slowly brought him in and when I got him near the boat he just wouldn't come up to the surface. Had a hell of a time getting him in the net. Netting a fish solo is always an adventure and I should have shortened up the leader between the dipsy and flasher before sending it out. This is my third year fishing Lake O and I hadn't been able to get a fish over 20lbs so that was my goal this year. Weighed in at 22lbs. Don't know why the photo is turned
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For a vary reasonable price you can either go through your car insurance company or though Boatus to get towing on the water. I had to use it last year when i was out with the family on Ontario. Absolutely worth the price, even if you don't use it just for peace of mind. They came quick and expertly towed me in astern right to the launch ramp. I can't really think of a good reason not to have it. This way you won't be ruining someone else's fishing trip by having to be towed in, or worse, someone getting injured.I think the only drawback is they can't come out and get you on every lake.
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Launched from west side of Braddocks around 6:30am finishing around 9:30. Marked a lot of bait and fish and had a bite almost immediately, probably a brown or lake trout, but lost him. Fished mainly in about 80feet.Ended up 5 for 7- all kings and all on FF either on downrigger or dipsy rods. Took my wife's friend's husband out for second time fishing. Got skunked at Canandaigua fishing for perch so really didn't want to go 0 for 2. Had a Father's Day party at his house with lots of kids!
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I am toying with the idea of buying another bigger boat and keeping it at a marina. I've always had aluminum boats but am concerned that if I leave an aluminum boat at a marina that stray current from other boats/docks could affect my boat. Does anybody keep an aluminum boat at a marina? Should this be something I concern myself with? Thanks for any feedback.
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My 2 cents. I bought one a few years ago. As some have mentioned I think it is more important for inexperienced trollers and people who don't get out much as it will help one understand the layers of water temps, but also how fast underwater currents can be. One trip last year it was as calm as could be but the underwater currents were incredible and my downrigger cables crossed. This is especially true here on Lake O because so much water is coming in via NFR and leaving by way of SLS. As garrymny said, I've also caught most of my salmon when not marking fish. A FH is a tool and can serve as a starting point. You'll at least know if you are fishing in 70 degree or 50 degree water and what speed your bait is running. If those two things are ok and you aren't catching fish, you can start to look at other factors or experiment with the temp and speed.
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Fished out of Braddock Bay today solo. Got to the lake about 6am and started setting up 2 dipsy rods with flies on them. Went to set up a rigger with spoon and the port dipsy fires. Fought with him for 15 minutes then the second dipsy rod fires. The first salmon gets tangled in the second dipsy rod and when I finally get him netted there is a mess of tangled wire lines. The second salmon got off but good way to start the morning. Took about 45 minutes to untangle and retie some leaders. By this time the fleet of boats were making their way out deeper so I set up out in about 190 feet. Ended up getting a small king on the rigger. Started to go back shallower since not seeing anything on my depth finder. Then rigger goes off and the drag starts to scream. Feels like a pretty good one. So as I'm fighting this one my starboard dipsy goes off- double again! Got the rigger salmon all the way to the boat but sloppy netting on my part, missed the fish but caught the treble in the net. Bye bye salmon. Guessing it was 18lbs or so.Grabbed the dipsy rod- salmon still there! Able to bring him to the net. Went 3-5 with two doubles. First time I've ever had a double when salmon fishing solo let alone twice in one outing! Got back to the dock and drove my trailer next to the ramp. Waiting for a guy ahead of me looking to launch. Paid his $4 and the bar went up, backed his boat to the water, unhooked everything and then threw a wad of rope tied to the bow, then onto the dock without tying it to anything. Backs up the boat into the water and away goes the boat as the wad of rope starts to follow. Guy jumps out of his truck to grab the line before it hits the water and does so. Unfortunately for him he left the truck in reverse and the truck is going deeper and deeper into the water. He quickly jumps back in his truck and was able to drive it out of the water just before water could enter his cab- probably with about a half second to spare before his truck would have joined his boat. By this time I had jumped out of my car and grabbed his boat. Turns out it was his first time launching a boat. Told him it will get easier with practice. Glad it didn't end in a disaster for him and a reminder we've all done some stupid things with out boats.
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Thanks, guys. I figured that to be the case. I'll have a Plan B just in case.
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My family and friends are renting a cottage on Cayuga in August. Whenever I've rented cottages before I've been able to park the trailer at the cottage but won't be able to this time. I plan on launching the boat at Long Point State Park. Anyone know if it would be a problem to leave the trailer at the park for the week? I think Don's marina is just south of the cottage so that might be another alternative. Thanks.