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is every one ready for turkey season

Cant wait!  Going to be a great season.  Going to throw the last breast from last year in the smoker this weekend. 

Thanks Bill. Dave is trying to promote the salmon more because he thinks he can draw more people to the derby. He also told me there was a push from a COUPLE west end charter captains. Look at his videos on his site and you can figure out who the bug is in his ear. I wish I still had his email from last year. It might be in my posts from last year in the tourney section. Another excuse was the lake trout fishermen are a small group of participants. IMO, they were guaranteed participants.

Overall Im not sure about all the changes, I liked the original format.  Chances of a boat out of Sandy catching a winning spring king are very small.  Find it hard to believe that prize structure affects the amount of entries.  "gee I have never signed up before, but now that lakers and bows dont count Im in!" ????????  Either way Im looking forward to the Derby and hope to take some of his money.  Hope other Sandy boats fair well also.  Going to have to chase the early bight, not having a weigh station for ten miles in either direction kind of ruins the evening trips.

 

Dave Chilson was sick of paying the same people over and over again is one of the reasons he stated in his email to me last year.  Laker natural reproduction is not that great in the lake.  The laker population is getting a 300,000 fish per year boost according to the DEC at the state of the lake meeting. 

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Steve and Ed have had some crazy success with lakers.  To his credit, Brian has as well.

Wonder why no Bows in the spring?

Is it possible that the Laker exclusion is because they live so long and are one of few that naturally reproduce in the lake?  Kings die by year five, end of story.  Lakers can live to a hundred from what I have read.  Killing off too many lakers over the slot limit cant have a positive impact on the fishery.  As far as Chilsons rules, its his derby.  Kind of like a buffet, find something you like.  There are some big carp in the lake also, second cousin to the lake trout just a little harder to catch LOL

Just one for me.

Id troll north south 180 to 300 riggers 70 80 90 100  dipsys @250 and 300 mostly spin Dr's 

Your going to get many different opinions to your question  They will all be right and they will all be wrong.  Although different people will prefer different temps, put me down for 50 degrees.

Great tourney, run really well due to the hard work and time these guys put in. It's a class act and was a Fun day. It was hard to pick the teams success by their faces at the awards ceremony, everyone I saw was smiling and enjoying time with family and good friends. Can't put a price on that Thanks all for a fun time.

Was a nice day, and yes Congrats to jay trish and Andy, you guys make it look easy.

Keep your eyes on the surface temp map (located on the left side of the home page on this site)  periodically the lake "flips" and it puts cold water on shore during the summer months.  When that happens a lot of the fish head for warmer water offshore however some, mostly browns, will congregate in shallow water.  When this happens you can definately catch some off the piers. 

as long as water temps dont exceed 60 degrees you should be able to pick up browns at first and last light with spoons and plugs.  8 lb line is fine and the local piers like hamlin beach or the oak are a good bet.   Later in the year, mid september it will pick up.

thank you, have been working too much, getting out friday am.  Looking forward to it.  looks like im going to do the brown trout thing.

What do the temps look like?

Good Luck Bruce, hope all goes well.

When i first saw this fish on the board I was pretty sure it was going to get beat by multiple fish in the salmon class. Pretty surprise that only one salmon beat it. Nice job on a great laker. I wonder if this is the biggest laker ever registered in the LOC.[/quote Many years ago (might have been ESLO then) a 40lber was caught on the bar with a sassy shad of all things. There is still a pic of it on the wall at East Fork Marina of Dave Chillson and the fish.

Are we # 40?

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I would only do that if I was looking for lakers for summer kings that havent started to stage 48-50

How far back, what color,how fast,what direction,.............................yikes

Doesnt surprise me. Over the years I've been fortunate to take a few derby fish on NK's. I have a pic of Patsy (deceased owner) with my kid from 2001 when he won the youth Steelhead division. He gave us a bunch of lures and used the pic for ads. Last year I was lucky enough to catch the winning summer derby brown, 20lbs 11 ounces on a NK. I sent NK an email offering them the pic for nothing in return. It was a cool looking pig of a brown, only 33 inches long, crazy fat. Thought they might want the pic, but never heard a word from them. Too bad because Im an NK freak and more often than not if Im running spoons they are NK's. Love the lures however their customer service isnt the best.

I like the slide divers, I can run leads as short or as long as I choose. When fishing the top of the column the long leads really produce.

Mono has too much stretch to release a dipsy out more than a hundred feet or so. Braid has no stretch and is easy to pop a release at 300.

Im not sure why folks here are so confident that braid is a flea magnet. I have run 80 lb braid (same diameter as 30lb mono) for over ten years and although it does pick up some fleas, most fall off when reeling in. Those that make it to the rod tip fall off when they get to the tip. I like the fact that the braid has no stretch and I can "pop" a release with 300 feet of line out with the flip of the wrist.

Hey Mike how have you been? didnt fish this weekeend but Tommy popped a nice Tom with his bow Saturday am. Im off for most of the sping derby, maybe we can hook up? Bill Ryan

Hey Hey Hey be nice to the new guy!!!!!