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I totally agree with you Les, when you buy a used car what's the first thing that comes to mind, " why are you selling this gem" Most of all "what's wrong with it" at least with a car you can wiggle some sort of a warranty, with a boat, I will never buy another without a written and notarized signed statement from the seller!! That I will put my hand on the great book and hold my word to it!!! -
So your telling me and the others that a survey would have picked up what a precision high performance engine builder and myself didnt, I can you if you have a plug missing been around the racing industry since I was 12, the motor didn't skip a beat on muffs for a 1/2 hr., how much pressure is there at an idle. A lot more at WOT!! Going out over the water, that would remove all the scale and the valve seats just go away from the rust. Let's back up to the Preacher mans house, the water that came out of the exhaust was clear and warm. Brought boat back hooked muffs up again and chunks of rust scale was coming out, not mud. There was no water in the oil, by the third thing we tried the intake in the front where the thermostat sets in was rusted so bad you couldn't tell there are directions in which the water is to flow. After replacing the manifolds how would you say, water could get into every cylinder yes, all 8 Freaken cylinders I mpossible right!! No what object would deliver water to all 8 cylinders the carb can't, but what the carb sets on can, because the water jacket in the intake rusted through and delivered liquid sunshine to all 8 runners. Do you think a survey would have picked that up. Shy of the minister it would of taken an act of God to pick this up, so now I would be 6-7 Ben Franklins in the O before I ever started, the boat itself is spotless. You could eat of the outer shell of the engine. He told me he just put a new motor in it because up in Onieda, the block froze and busted. He used to dry dock it at a marina, he had all the paper work to prove his mouth. But he failed to tell me he went to the bay for fluke and sea trout, which he let slip after a few phone calls to him to let him know how bad he screwed me. A man of God told me to get bent in a much more meaningful way.LOL. There are boats on here I kick myself for not waiting!! My wife said that when I bought this boat, the economy was much better and people weren't selling thing just to make ends meet. Carl, I'm not calling you out, but I don't think the best surveyer in the world would have picked this mess apart!! When your working with your wallet you tend to remember all the little nick-nack things!! Not trying to excuse any of my actions, but both my father in law, my uncle and I kind of were more lacked in our poking and prying around just because of what or who we were dealing with. This is still not a excuse to my purchase!! To all those who are looking at a saltwater boat, if it's before 2004 don't purchase, the SaltWater engines have Teflon coated water jackets and a special designed wash down system. Those are outboards I don't know about a I/O.
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If you hook you release to the back of the weight, when you load the rigger pole, with some releases you can really load the pole you can lift the tail of the weight and they will not track true. I proved this to myself, because that's the way I did it. We set up in 80ft of water one release attached to the back of the weight and the other to the line. I was running the pancake type this was about 10-15 years ago, the pancakes were the hot item. My rigger with the release above the weight bumped up at 70ft the other at 60ft and the one with the release above the weight made the rigger jump around violent, the other the rigger just like shook a little. That convinced me to put my releases above the ball. At the time I had a 18ft Troller with a 1988/88SPL Evinrude when a rigger went off there was no doubt about it. This test was done also for another reason, I couldn't catch a fish to save my life in the deep water, while other guys nets were being used. Going the same speed and 10# pancake weights, with the release attached to the weight I was fishing 20+ feet above the fish. Some say the salmon shot X amount of feet to hit their lure, but there are days you need to have the lures in front of their nose!!
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Well that's the lesser of the 2 evils!! Quick fix, you were going to switch props anyway. Glad to hear you got it narrowed down, I spun a prop on the main once, I couldn't get her up on plane, but it worked good enough to get me home. I tried to turn the prop I couldn't turn it. I took it to a marinia they assured me it was spun. Put new one on and she jumped out of the water. -
Did you try switching sides? And does it do the same thing, while the other tracks true, then by golly it's the damn rigger weight!!
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These guys sell their product to the mom&pop shops, this makes even more sence to try. Call or drive to the store explain all you did. They'll give you another. When the store runs out they call the supplier, nine times out of ten their going to see this post. Give it a shot!!!
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Awesome profT, I got to say you and Kevin have a barrel full of ambition to fish the crazy hrs. You do. I'm pretty sure in your before life you were a Muskie, as you 2 guys fish some wacky ass hrs. For those eyes. No wonder those eyes taste so good come January/February!!! Keep up the great effort, to put 3 more eyes on the board!!! Congrats. -
There's not many guys with that mold, I know 3 with that mold, 2 of them are on here a simple phone call would solve all problems, melt that one down and receive a new one. I appreciate your mindset not to drag ones name through the dirt over this!!.
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Something ain't right I have a 15hp on my 22ft cuddy loaded with rigger weights, 3 sets and all the gear and with 3-4 guys and I have no problems trolling into the wind, 3 footers 1/2-3/4throttle I'm going into the waves 2.5 depending on the lower currents. I never really checked WOT! But I did have to come in using the kicker at 10mph. Is it a 4 stroke or 2, is wfo really wide open, check to see if the handle at wot the carb. Is wide open. Maybe someone was monkeying around to get that 2mph or ballpark mph and has a adjustment screw turned one way or another. Just food for thought. Good luck with it!!
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I'm still leaning towards a tight wrist pin, 200* isn't motor destroying hot, but if wrist pin was a little tight and she got that hot it could have wiped out the rod bearing. I'd pull the motor, the head and the crank. Like LakeBound said get the crank turned inspect Pistons for a tight wrist pin, they should have no resistance, a wrist pin kit, and insist on Clevite rod & crank bearings. The best bearings, used in the racing world, these marine engines get used hard they are all about making power, and turning rpm's way higher than a automobile engines for longer periods of time. If not doing this yourself at least use the info suggested. That way the shop or whoever gets this prodject doesn't try to snowball ya!! Best of luck.
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AWW shyt, I don't think so. I just thought about what I have, not thinking Cannon isn't the only rigger out there. Sorry for getting your hopes up. -
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Man that just awesome!! To bad it's so far to travel. Thanks John nice catch on a bluebird sky day!! -
That's if you can get that nasty ass looking fish out of your head so you could at least smell them first, before you open wide and say YUMMY good tasting gobies LOL YUCK!!!
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Cannon makes a release block or something like that it's called the rigger snaps into this and you can push in a tab and remove the rigger. Then all that's there is there is the swivel mount. This screws to the main mount and the rigger slides in & out of this piece. I'll look it up be right back!! It's called a tab release, I have used these for years never had a problem. I take my riggers off whenever not using them. It's on the 2nd page, under Cannon downrigger releases. Hope that's what your looking for!!!
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Now we are getting somewhere!!!! X2 PAP!!! -
Sold / Closed Like New 27' Eastern Lobster Boat - New Price
Xxx replied to Schools Out's topic in Boats for Sale
Man that's a beauty, and would make a hell of a LakeO which it looks like it is, is this boat at Henchens, or the one across from Henchens, I delt with the guy across from Henchens, that man was fantastic, and very fair I thought anyway, if I had the dust it would be sold!! Best of luck with your sale!!! -
Yea Chas, that's the first thing tom told me lesson learned, didn't break the bank. I still use the Depthmaster reels. I like them and to me that's what matters.
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Yea I hear ya there man, if I wasn't mechanically inclined it would have cost me dearly. Instead it cost me time. Like a season and 1/2!!
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That's exactly what mine did!! The outside looked as if you could eat off of it. The inside was so rusted we even hesitated using the block. So I had the block cooked and we blew out the water jackets and hoped it didn't rust through, so we had the block pressure checked and it passed, so the games got started. So my uncle and I rebuilt the motor. She's a 350 bored 30 over good marine cam and the best of every thing else. Even. Had the lower unit rebuilt also the salt water killed the copper, tube inside from the pump to the engine and all the seals. I could go on & on but I think got the Pic.
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A few years before the DM lll, I used the ll and I sent them to Tuna Tom, I had a problem first thing in the morning the drags would like stick all I had to do is pull the line and they worked flawless the rest of the day. One morning I forgot the old pull the line and it cost me a whale of a walleye tore off as soon as it hit which was a violent one at that. I saw he had advertisement for Cabela's reels and he did a bunch for me I asked where do you get your parts and he said a lot interchange with other main brand reels?? I didn't want to get into it so I figured it was Okuma there's to much resemblance. Now if I were to buy a better grade of the lll which I haven't had 1 oz of trouble I wouldn't buy their all metal ones. I would go with the salties there drags seem really smooth to me, I had them all in my hands at Cabelas, the key to there drags is change them out, like I did, now they are as smooth as a Mitchell tide water, which is the smoothest I've ever felt. The guys at Cabela's let me put 20 some feet of line on every reel and for the money the salties are the smoothest.
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Couldn't have said it any better!!! Salt rusts out your car eats the wires to hell, why wouldn't it do the same to the engine if that shyts running threw its veins!!!! I learned with my walletLOL.
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The boat I have now was in salt water, it was originally a lake Onieda Lake boat, to make a long story short so you DON'T make the same mistakes I did, take the boat for a aggressive run before purchasing. I just had the guy use the water muffs and let it idle for half hr. seemed alright. Bought the boat put it on our local lake idled out past the no wake zone opened the carb up and the temp shot right up to peg the heat gauge. Shut her down waited a good 1/2 hr. Took her back to the dock now we're running on only a few cylinders, pulled the plugs and water came out every cylinder on the port side, and both exhaust bellows were hot, pulled risers and exhaust manifolds made plates to pressure check manifolds and both were bad risers were corroded shut. $600.00 later and $300 for new risers and exhaust manifolds should be good to go, right- wrong, still getting water in all 8 cylinders WTF. Ok let's think about this, how in the hell could water be in all 8 cylinders, the intake feeds all 8 cylinders so took the plates for the exhaust manifolds put them on the intake permatex the hell out of the plates made a plate for where the carb sets with a air chuck hardly any pressure and we could hear air leaking, the manifold was rusted through internally allowing water from the thermostat housing to leak into the fuel runners. Found another manifold all is good right wrong, pulled motor now I'm just going to rebuild the entire motor, heads were junk, got a good set of heads from my uncle who runs modified dirt track and builds motors for the dirt circuit the only thing he used was the crank, block, rods&pistons because they were 30. Over. what I paid for the boat I have in parts for anything that came in touch with the salt water, even the lower shift cable that was exposed to the salt water. Three years later I finally got her to where I feel safe with it, I even replaced the thermostat housing as that was rusted to crap, new boots shift,driveshaft, exhaust, and shift bellows. I bought this boat off of a minister, a man of God who lied through his teeth, and told me I should have been more thorough with my inspection, instead I took his "word" for certain things, he told me it was gone over by a Sea Ray dealer by us. I called this marina, they never heard of Pastor so and so, don't that figure!! Definatly take a run on the water, these days people are more aware of salt water boats and people do flush out their motors. Personally I wouldn't touch a salt water boat, but that's my opinion!!
