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Your story of timing and the above problem motor is why I said that fuel symptom shouldn’t make the starter buck, especially when the motor is cold. I had a guy come to me with a similar problem where he had 2 issues first was he said his boat hesitated trying to get on plane then was fine till the next day, the starter bucked then spun fine. What I found was water droplets on all 8 plugs?? What the hell thats impossible, how could both head gaskets go bad at the same time?? I assumed a water problem since the starter bucked cold, kinda like a weak hydro lock. So we pulled a head gasket was fine?? The only way water could get into all 8 cylinders is through the fuel system, but the owner said they drained the tank and there was no water in the fuel!! Well then the only other thing that feeds all eight cylinders is the intake manifold, so I pulled the intake made plates to close off the runners and a plate where the carb sets and added air and you could hear a hissing sound. So the intake where the thermostat sets rusted through and water was getting put in each cylinder at a minimal amount, but when it sat water would leak into the front cylinder just enough that it would create a slight buck in the starter then it pushed the water out the exhaust valve and it went away for a little while. Switched out the intake and all is well!! LOL

This story reminds me of something, in the tank there is a check ball valve, and one time I had the exact same issues. I had this damn boat everywhere then buy dumb luck I was reading in the manual, and came across this, I pulled the floor up and I had to unthread this metal tube from the tank and what I found was this tube has a metal ball that just rolls back and forth and keeps all the fuel from draining back into the tank. Well this ball only moved half the ball away from the end of pick-line and starved the motor of fuel. Sprayed carb cleaner in there and ran a small bottle brush in the tube cleaned her out again put everything back together and problem solved, such a stupid little thing like that aggravated me for a year before I figured that out. That never gave me a bucking the starter like you mentioned though?? What year is your boat???

I know many don’t know this formula but it seems to stand true with walleye fishing, especially like in the western and central basins, I’ve never fished the eastern basin. Any hay who”just go out and find the pack”!! Back to the formula they claim 90% of the fish are in 10% of the water, maybe this explains that nature of the beast??

What a clash of sights, looking out the window with snow blowing after a good 10”s of fresh snow while watching a great fishing video with guys in shorts!!?? I’m ready for spring already, lots of winter to go yet

Either way it can be timed to far ahead. So back to the thunderbolt book to see if timing is to far advanced, or how to set proper timing at an idle before the module advances the timing at what ever rpm or call-need for more electric???

The manual seloc says when I timed my motor to idle the motor to 600 rpm, as you turn the distributor towards the advance mode the motor will pick up r,pm and you need to continue to adjust the rpms back to 600 hundred until your at the desired timing mark, is says the centrifugal force spin the weights out and advances the timing as much as 25 degrees advanced. So if you timed the motor like a car your way advanced before the centrifugal weights come into play. If I wasn’t so full from supper and lazy I’d get my book and scan the page and post it, but what I said is damn close!!

Thank you sir see if this post disappeares???

That sounds to me like the timing is to far advanced a hard buck than spins but won’t start because either it was timed at above the recommended rpms to time motor or it could even be a tooth off. I don’t know why my posts keep disappearing but I’m pretty sure your electric is to far advanced!!!

My buddy took a 454 out of a older boat and put it in a short bed pickup and wins every 4x4 pull he goes to, all you need is the exhaust for the truck and make sure the heads are drilled to accept your front accessories alternator smog pump if used that’s the most you might run into. A lot of the times it’s just a matter of flipping the heads around, but older model like mine has the pump on it already. The only difference between a marine and a road use motor is definitely the marine motors were built with more hp and lot more torque after the exhaust and the oil pan are removed it’s pretty much the same shape and size, but don’t go the opposite way you will not be happy.

I have a bunch of different rain gear, nothing pizzes me off more than rain running down my backside and the best bang for your$$ IMO are the above mentioned Frog Toads they don’t sound like your wearing a plastic bag, where most all your upper end rain gear is silent anymore!!, if your a archery or any other hunter being silent in the rain is a must. Then you know what quality rain gear costs. Everyone has different thoughts of what’s is expensive is to them, and that’s why I chose the Frogg Toggs, which I wore for years, till gravity took over and my pants didn’t fit anymore that’s when I saw the Frogg Toads on sale and I’ve been wearing them for years now.

I sat in on a few of Mark Romanack seminars and there worth there weight in gold also all the local charter Capt, your getting spoon fed the best info out there, if you never sat in on seminar you’d be amazed all the little things that play a major role in what you might be doing already but just seem to dial them in not knowing what the little things are!!!

Be careful for a couple days yet heard a couple stories that god must have decided it wasn’t their time yet went through at near 30ft. It’s not worth your life for a tip up or anything else