Frogger

Web cams are a big help for me, NOAA has an animation map that seems to have changed this year. Not sure about it. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Ain’t that the truth! I have a brother that still yells at me when I’m a rider with him in tournaments and ask where’s the spinning rod.... lol Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I think you give this guy Sk8man too much credit, it’s not like he’d give the shirt off his back to help anyone on here or out on the water, or I would bet if you ever had a chance to see him in action, probably can’t catch a perch or laker to save his life, probably makes his own lures with googlie eyes that don’t catch fish, heck I betcha if it were 20 mph winds during a derby he’d throw in the towel cause he couldn’t keep his lines in the water to catch the winning fish, he might even tell you he has so much history on the Finger Lakes he’s going to come out with a book. Question I have is, when is it coming out? I wanna copy lol. You sir are one of the Legends of the FL. Those who haven’t met him, go out of your way to meet him, whether on here or at the dock. You’ll be glad you did. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Agreed. Also, ask the seller, he may fund it. He would want it to help sell it unless there’s other issues. You never know till you ask. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So the theory is that if your weight ie split shot is above the hook your less likely to floss a fish or accidentally snag a fish. If the weight is below the hook ie drop shot or bull head type set up, hook hits the fish first. Weight on the hook like a jig head is a no no or where the bait is not in approximately of the hook like using a bead is important. Remember the location on tribs is the defining point and important. Usually below the first bridge is where these regs change allowing for what your trying to do to be more flexible. Hope that helps. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Yea I’m with ya. Went through the same thing a couple of years ago. Had the elite when they came out. Sales guy said oh yea if it has nema 2000 you should be fine. When I was ready to buy the AP, someone who knew what they were talking about said nope it won’t. It’s just for data only. Now with that said the new elite ti series said it had smart steer which is what runs the lowrance AP but don’t quote me. Anyway I went with Ray marine. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The HDS part always seems to catch people. It’s great if you already have it, tack another 1-2k if you don’t. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Would that be the same for rough seas though? I could see that if the lake were flat but if it was rolling I wouldn’t think the two would compare for getting back in. Just me though. Having something is better than nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

That would be cool then. It looks like the elite ti series 9 and larger has the smart steer program like the HDS models do. I don’t why it took me so long to get an AP. Absolutely love it. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So I’m not entirely sure if lowrance has changed this or not but I’m thinking unless you have an HDS model you won’t be able to control your AP through the unit. The elites and hooks only have nema 2000 that will show data only but will not drive the route if you know what I mean. Maybe someone else can chime in or like you said contact lowrance for an update. Make sure you get a tech. The sales guy will tell you “sure it will”. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Keep doing what your doing, just make sure you do it with life preservers in the early spring, Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United