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Thanks Guys! For what it's worth, a guy had a beautiful brown 15+ lbs out of Hughes this morning. Nice fish. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Don't worry about fish seeing leader if that's what your worried about. Your going to be dragging that lure through the bottom. Remember you have to be ticking the bottom with it. 6 lb would never hold up like Les said. It's one of those until you see it or try it , obe 1 kanobe it! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Man that's rocking guys. Thanks for the reports and info. Did you guys happen to mark many fish during the morning? Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Steve, I went through some projects the last two years one being transom replacement and floor. It's time consuming but in the end I'm glad I did it and not someone else. The transom as mentioned would probably be the toughest, but if you have access to the back skin, meaning no splash well, it's a piece of cake. Mine was totally shot. Toughest part would be the wood part, resin and epoxy stuff that I'm not really that knowledgable with if you go that route. I went with a pour cast with mine. My only suggestion would be is to not wait till winter unless you have access to a heated garage or work shop. I did mine in February, which having a salamander in the doorway of my house and a kerosene heater to try and get my garage to 70 degrees ugggg. Not fun. Working with resins in warmer atmospher is easier to work with. My floor was replacing the aluminûm and gluing vinyl Nautalex. Happy to help. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Nice job Patriot on that! That looks awesome. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Nice bow! Thanks for the report. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

2nd the pvc material. Redid mine, a total of 7 boards. Ripped on table saw to size. Order vinyl online three colors. Wrapped over foam, electric stapler, center strip cover screws. Saved 1700.00 for the project. Cost me 150.00 for materials. Piece of cake. Was more mental than the actual job. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

You got some great tips there from Les. Once you get the feel of jerking copper, you'll be able to tell when you get a zebra or weed on the hook 70 ft of water. I would even suggest using a twin minnow first. Someone already mentioned them but are a blast and easy to get the feel. Take 30lb leader minimum maybe 36-50 inches long. Tie one end to the twin minnow, no snap. Tie the other end of the leader to a bead chain, then tie your copper with a twist to that. Speed 1.5 to 1.7 no faster. Slower the better. Let out a 150-200 ft in 40 ft of water, just a guess but will get you close. More for deeper. Every few feet hold the copper with your hand and wait till you feel sharp ticks. This is your minnow hitting the bottom. This is what you want to feel, if it stops, let a little more out. Jerk every now and then to keep it clean. If it feels heavy like your dragging bottom you got too much out. Keep your bottom depth constant at first so you can make it easy for yourself. Once you get comfortable the depth changes are easier to manage. Just hang on, you'll know when one hits, hand over hand bring him in, if it's bottom, you'll know that quickly, don't try and hold on, you'll stretch it and break it or weaken it. Do this stuff first, then trying the jerking copper with Pfleugars will be a piece of cake. Let us know how you do. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

You know what would of been funny Ed, should of got a bunch of us to stand there with rods like opening day of streams to see who would show up with a rod......... Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

What a trip ! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Great pics Les Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

We struggled marking fish as well Bob, but when we did had a good shot at popping a rod. Les is the man at keeping an eye on finding things that work. Nice lake for everyone. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

Went out to treat dad for his 75th birthday 3:30 - 6pm. , seemed 215-230 was the spot. 40-50 down 45 degrees, moonshine ratchet jaw, Mongolian beef, Fingerlakes UV (not sure of the name) big eye on it, glow ladder, whitish green. Lost it on a fish so I have to find out. 1st Altlantic for Bman, ended 5-6. 3 kings, 1 laker, atlantic. The fog was an awesome sight, lifted an hour in. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Could be.... Nice catch anyway.Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Man Les, I didn't think it could get any worse for Mike and I getting skunked on Owasco, but you at least caught some. Hope all is well the deer situation. What was the story with some monster Browns caught but couldn't enter them in the derby? Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Dan, thanks for the report and awesome info. It's a huge help to see pics of what's working. So much appreciative. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United

Never tried it myself. I want to say it was brought up in the salmon school this past year but have to check my notes. Like anything give it a run to see I'd suggest light spoons to keep action up. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United