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Justin, Here is what the signs the NMA put up around Buffalo look like. If you are planning on giving size limits on the signs, you might want to wait to see if the DEC approves raising the size limit to 40". I don't think that is going to happen til spring. If you haven't heard from Jim Kinner, The NMA president Scott Mckee might be able to help you with advice on sign design and possibly where to get them made.
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Pike trolling today
muskiedreams replied to pro-fish-n-c's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Beautiful tiger! pro-fish-n -c I am a member of Muskies Inc. Chapter 69 which we started in Rochester a little over a year ago. Since we are the only chapter in New York State, we are interested in working toward improving and enhancing musky and tiger musky fishing throughout the state. Therefore we are currently working at developing relationships and collecting data as a preliminary step to realizing that goal. The waters in your area, including Cross Lake are of interest to me for that reason. Since it looks like you fish those waters on a regular basis, I would be interested in any data, thoughts, observations or suggestions that you and other local anglers may have in relation to this subject. I would appreciate any input that you can give us in order to help evaluate possible improvements for the future. Feel free to PM me with your thoughts and concerns. Steve -
Fall st. lawrence muskys?
muskiedreams replied to gert9888's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
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Trying pre made musky rig
muskiedreams replied to eviltroll's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Mark, Correction: the NMA meetings are held at the Eldridge Club, 17 Broad St., Tonawanda. -
I was in Clayton with several other members of Muskies Inc. Chapter 69 on Sat and Sun. The guys in the other boat had a couple rips on Sat but we got nothing that day. Sun was very windy so we tried up by Chippawah (spelling may be off) Bay for a few hours but it got too rough and we called it quits early since we were taking a few waves over the bow. No luck that day either. It was my first time up there. The guys I was with had been there several times before. Were you at our meeting at Obrien's in Clayton? We had our monthly Muskies Inc. Chapter 69 meeting there and Bob Walters of Water Wolf Charters did a presentation. We also did a presentation about our Muskies Inc. chapter. There were several charter captains and local musky fisherman in attendance including Rich Clark and Dave Berger (who came up with the Berger King rig and former owner of Thousand Island Bait Shop). Bob Walters brought a few mounts inclusing a beautiful 59.5" and a gorgeus double replica mount. It was a good time and a great opporunity to meet and talk to the local musky fisherman. I would like to thank all who attended and participated. We must all stick together in order to preserve and enhace our state's precious musky fisheries. Steve
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Fall st. lawrence muskys?
muskiedreams replied to gert9888's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
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See my previous post. Cast 10 ft or less along the sides and in north and south ends. Points and small flats adjacent to deep water are good bets. Jerk baits and 5 to 8 " crank baits. Vary retrieve and do figure 8s. Perch , firetiger and other bright colors. Some red in the patern is always good. Due to the cloudy water, rattles are also very helpful. For trolling, concentrate on the same areas with shallow offerings. Try runnig lures 10 to 20 ft behind the boat Frequent tight turns and varrying speed can trigger strikes. As I said earlier, casting is producing better than trolling right now. We had a tournament on the 5th and I believe all the fish entered were caught casting in 10 ft or less.
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Currently, casting is working right now in 10 fow or less. Jerk baits have been most productive. Water is prety cloudy so bright colors and noise is the key. If you raise a fish in one spot, chances are good there is at least one other one nearby. Don't forget to do figure eights since you may not see a follow due to the murky water. I got 2 on Sunday on a Chineese shallow Shad Rap imitation in perch.They were both in the same neighborhood (less than 100ft apart) but I caught them 2hrs apart. If you want to troll, try 10 fow or less with short lines or shallow divers. Try different speeds but try to find the optimal speed for the lures you are using. Things could all change if water cools off. Right now it is still in the mid to upper 60s.
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Chad, was that 51.5'" on Friday before the tournament? Friday I got a blowup on a Top Raider at dusk bit it didn't hold on to it. The day of the tournament, I got nothing as usual. I have been in all seven of them and havn't entered a fish yet. Today I got a 36" and one about 33" on a Chinese Shad Rap imitation in perch. I caught them within 100 Ft of each other but about 2 hrs apart.
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Years ago we used to troll in the Niagara river and Buffalo Harbor in the fall and catch purebred muskies at night. There are still some angles that catch them at night in the river during the summer and fall. It can be very productive sometimes.
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panfisher, The fish was caught out of season. The law requires that it be released immediately even if it will not survive. Mounting it would have been asking for trouble. Many serious musky anglers would release even a fish that large when caught in season. If you want a mount, you can get a very good quality replica these days.
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Eye Spy, I think they need to show a little leniency. I can see if there is someone who is continually violating the rule, even after they have been informed and educated. Obviosly it is not good to hold a fish like that but pike fisherman who normally keep pike, might not be aware of the potential of causing harm. I don't know if he could have sucessfully released the fish without removing it from the water or if he even knew it was a musky until after he removed it. The best thing here might be to try to educate the angler and appeal to him to try to be more carefull in the future.
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Ivan, Here is my take on the regs. I beleive what they mean by catch and release angling is purposly fishing for said species. I think there would have to be very clear evidence of intent. I think they are planing to reword the regs a little to avoid confusion. The main intention here is that if you unintentionally catch a fish out of season or a protected species, you must release it without causing any unnecessary stress or harm. This would include not bringing it in the boat unless, for some reason, you have to in order to release the fish safely. That technically would mean not taking a poto while holding the fish out of the water. Even if there was a valid reason to remove the fish from the water, that type of photo would increase the amount of time the fish was out of the water beyond what would be considered necessary. You should be very careful if you take a photo like that about who you show it to and not posting it on line. I believe there have been some people prosecuted from photos but in this case, I don't think it would happen. A boatside picture is probably the safest for you and the fish. Steve
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Fall st. lawrence muskys?
muskiedreams replied to gert9888's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
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The anual Mark Troy Memorial Musky Tournament will be held Saterday October 5th. It is put on by Jim Reynolds, Bob Saucke and Captain Ed Cragg in memory of Jims friend and fishing partner, Mark Treau, who passed away several years ago with cancer. I beleive this will be the 6th anual. Last year we had a great tournament and the anglers kept Ed and Jim very busy since they were in the only judge boat. This year there should be two judge boats as usual. Last year there were 41 anglers and close to half that number of fish entered. It was a very good day with continuous action throughout the day. The first and second place fish were caught in the final minutes of the tournament for an exciting finale. The cookout with awards presentation and raffle table was a great time with lots of stories, good conversation and comarederie. This is a catch and release tournament. Judge boats are used to verify your catch. Tournament hours will be 7 am til 3:30 pm. Morning fog could delay the start. Registration will be at the boat launch between 6 and 7 am. The entry fee is $25 per angler and this is a cash tournament with prizes for first, second and third place. I do not have all the rules but I beleive they will be the same as last year and will be provided to partisipants before the start of the tournament. We will have the cottage at Swarthout point where we will have the cookout and awards presenation immediately following the tournament. Bring your own drinks. We still have some space available in the cottage for Friday and Saturday nights for anyone who is interested, for $25 per person per night per person. Respond here or call Jim in advance if you are interested. If you stay at the cottage, there is a boat launch on site and docks to use. If you have any questions, you can call Jim at 585-670-0422 or post them here. If you are planning to attend, please let us know here or call Jim so we can get an idea of how many will be there. I have fished this tourney every year since the first one and it has always been a great time even though I have yet to enter a fish.
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