We run meat on just about every rod that we have on the boat. deep rigger at least 1 wire dipsey and coppers are what we run just about every time we fish. The 450 copper and our torpedo steel line always have meat on them. Early morning we will run meat up high but when the sun gets up we drop all the meat into the coldest water we can find. 10 and 13 inch whip tails with minion meat rigs behind them have done the work for us most of the year including our 2nd place finish at the Monroe county offshore classic a couple weeks ago. Minion also is starting to supply 13 inch whip tail paddles. White with crush glow on one side and smooth glow on the other has been taking fish consistently with either a Minion purple uv meat rig behind it or a green flo bot rig behind it.