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Super long dipsey Leads
John E Powell replied to darkfisher's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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Super long dipsey Leads
John E Powell replied to darkfisher's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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The tail fin of the torpedo can be bent a little to give you a weight with the ability to plane to the side slightly. If you're deploying off a side planer, there's no real advantage to having a weight that planes to the side as the planer can place either the Torpedo or a round weight anywhere off to the side of the boat. The round weight is the weight of choice for thumper rigs or bottom bouncers as they are more durable and less snag prone. So in my mind making a case for the torpedo (over a round weight you probably already have) comes down to whether or not you can find a spot in your rigging on a particular day to use the torpedo’s capability to plane to the side slightly. The only scenario that comes to mind (for my boat, crew, and rigging anyway) is when fish are on an aggressive bite. Other people may have a different creative use, but at times I've pulled one of my two inside divers and replaced it with a torpedo rig set to run just outside and behind my outdown. Weighted lines have a very active signature as the boat interacts with wind, waves, and current. The aggressive action transmitted to lures by the rapid vertical jigging of weighted lines can sometimes be more appealing to aggressively feeding fish than the comparatively more neutral action of a lure trailing behind a magnum diver’s turbulent but more stable signature under the same conditions. Of course, like most things fishing, some days it works and some days it doesn’t. But it’s nice when you can present a rig with a different signature and it helps to turn an otherwise slow two fish day into a five fish day. Also, sometimes the jigging motion of the lure on the weighted line might draw a fish in for a look at your set, and the fish then chomps on the adjacent rigger line that has gone untouched all morning with a diver running near it. If you don’t have any weights and are considering purchasing one or more, then by all means give a torpedo a try, the 12 ounce size is pretty popular. You can always use weights (round or torpedo) in front of something like a 3 color lead core with braid backing and deploy it to the side using an inline planer to create a super stealthy rig that can reach depths of 120-150 feet. The Torpedo (or round weight) can take the seductive hypnotic lead core way below the 40 feet or so that is the normal depth limit of longer cores. Just make sure to place the weight on the backing in front of the core. If you attach the weight behind the lead, it will prevent the core from dancing its dance. It's not a good idea to attach any weight to lead core itself. For guys on a budget without a plethora of pre-rigged rods, you might find it makes more sense to have just a couple 3 color lead cores and a few weights of various sizes to compliment your rigger and diver rods. With little to no weight, the 3 color cores can cover the full depth range of short to long lead cores, and with heavier weights and longer lead sets the 3 color cores can fish the same depths of water as the entire range of copper lines from 200-600 ft. You won't have the same exact action or trolling signature, but you can sure reach and catch salmon for a fraction of the cost of a bunch of copper rigs. You can even run the same 3 color core off your deepest rigger to present a lure to fish well behind the boat in water that the ball hasn't disturbed - the lure will trail behind on the core about 10-15' deeper than the ball.
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Super long dipsey Leads
John E Powell replied to darkfisher's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
No one has mentioned this yet so I'll put this out there for your consideration. You can rig a Dipsy or Walker to slide on your mainline like a slide diver by using an aftermarket release and a few simple parts you probably already have in your tackle box. This rigging method works equally well on mono, braid, and wire divers. Please note that a braid or wire diver will require a section of mono to be spliced to the end of the braid or wire. Your diver will be rigged to slide on this section of mono so don't make it any longer than the longest you plan to run it in front of your attractor or spoon. Here's a list of what you'll need to duplicate my rig: one Big Jon Jettison release one large split ring one clear plastic bead approximately 1/4" diameter one medium ball bearing swivel (with a ring on each end, but no snap) one small strong snap (without a swivel) mono mainline and/or fluorocarbon leader material (whatever you prefer to rig with) one appropriately sized snap swivel (for attaching flasher, dodger or spoon) The method I am about to describe, unlike a slide diver, has the additional benefit of allowing you to remove your Dipsy or Walker from the rod for storage. Slide divers stay on the line which makes rod storage (and running in and out with rigged rods) more difficult. As you read through my instructions it might be helpful to think of this rigging method as similar to how you would rig an inline planer. This is how I do it: A) Rigging the release on the mainline Purchase a Big Jon Jettison release. Read the instructions that come with the release to familiarize yourself with it's operation, but DO NOT rig it as shown. It must be rigged differently. Look at the photo of the release here: http://www.lakemichiganangler.com/store/Fishing_Line_Releases.htm In the photo, both parts are assembled together in the correct orientation to each other. The pin should not be reversed and assembled from the other side of the release body. In the photo, the release body is to the left and the release pin is the round part on the right. NOTE however that the entire assembled release can be mounted to the fishing line with the pin facing either the fish or the rod. For this method to work correctly the pin must face the rod, hence #2 above instructing you to ignore the package instruction which shows the pin incorrectly facing the fish. If not already done, separate the straight release pin from the U shaped release body. Feed the end of your main line (or spliced fluorocarbon/mono leader on a wire/braid diver) through the tiny hole in the end of the pin. In the photo, this would be at the lower right corner of the release. Next, feed the end of your line through the small hole in the release body. Note that you can do this backwards. The correct end of the release to feed your line through is the end protruding away from the release body. In the photo, this is at the upper left part of the release. The line should exit at the lower left part of the body in the photo. Thread a clear bead on your line next. Your diver will slide to this bead and rest against it when tripped. A good size is about 1/4", but it should be a bit bigger than the opening of the snaps your rig with. I use a clear bead that's about 1/4" in diameter. Tie on a high quality ball bearing swivel. Your bead will rest on the line up against, and in front of, this swivel preventing the diver from fouling the swivel or sliding to the fish when released. Decide how close to allow your diver to slide to the attractor or spoon when the diver release trips. Cut and tie the leader to the ball bearing swivel attached to the mainline, then tie the ball bearing snap swivel to the other end of the leader. Your attractor or spoon will attach to the snap swivel so size it appropriately. These distances work well for me, but you can decide what works best for you. Note that the following leader length distances are tied lengths, so plan a little extra leader material for tying knots when you cut your leader: Lengthy twinkie/meat rigs and any size attractor, 18-24" Large paddles and fly but no twinkie rig, 3' 8-10" Flasher or dodger and Fly, 4' Clean spoon or plug, minimum of 3' to a maximum length equal to the length of the rod minus 2' Check over your work. From the lure to rod you should have snap swivel, short leader, swivel, and the following free sliding parts: clear bead, Jettison body, and Jettison Pin. A general note here: the section of mono mainline (or leader on a wire/braid rig) where the free sliding parts are is where you will fix your diver when setting and deploying it - it can be any length you want. B) Modifying your Dipsy or Walker style diver: Tighten the screw that holds the metal release pin of your diver about 1/4 to 1/2 half turn. It should be pretty tight. The diver's metal release arm will now become a fixed tow point that should not release while fishing. The Jettison release will replace the diver's original release. Snap the Diver's metal release arm into the fishing position. It should be really tight so it won't trip. Attach a small but strong snap to the existing swivel on the rear of the diver. When setting and deploying while fishing, your main line will go through this snap. The snap (and diver) will slide on the main line and rest against the clear bead (described in section A-6 above). The snap must be small enough that it won't slide over the bead. Install a large split ring to the release's metal tow/release loop. The size of the split ring needs to be pretty big. When installed on the metal arm, there needs to be enough room to easily slide the Jettison's release pin through the split ring and still have a bit of free room. A good rule of thumb is to use a split ring with an inside diameter about twice the size of the Jettison Release pin diameter. C) Rigging the diver to slide: Attach your bait to your leader and hold onto both parts of the Jettison release in one hand. Let out however much line you want allowing the line to pass through the two parts of the release. Note that there's no need to hold onto the free sliding bead, it can go out with the rest of the rigging. This next part sounds complicated, but it's actually pretty easy to do. To rig the diver to the mainline in the fishing position, hold the body of the release in one hand so the two arms of the release, that hold the release pin, are pointing upwards. Bring the split ring (and diver) up and over the lower arm (refer to the photo, it's the lower arm of the release in the photo) and hang the split ring (and diver) between the two parallel arms of the release. This frees your second hand; using that hand, bring the tip of the release pin up to the release body. This part is really important - you want the split ring (and the pull of your diver on the release pin) to hang and rest on the plastic release pin when fishing, NOT on your fishing line - I can't stress this enough. Make sure to rotate the pin so your fishing line passes through the pin in a horizontal (left-right) manner and then push the pin through both release body holes and the split ring. How far you push the pin into the final hole determines how much pressure it takes to release the diver. You will have to experiment with this to find what works best for you - this can take a few attempts to get right, but once you set it a few times, you'll be able to set it for a fairly consistent release tension. Important - don't forget to do this step - if you do you'll lose a diver! Open the snap that is attached to the rear of the diver and hook it over the fishing line going to the lure, and close the snap. D) Final rigging check before deploying the diver over the side: With the diver's split ring fixed and hanging on the release pin, grab ahold of your main line in each hand so the diver hangs naturally between your hands. VERY IMPORTANT - confirm that the split ring is resting on the plastic pin and NOT the fishing line. If you inserted the pin incorrectly the split ring may be resting on your fishing line and it can be pinched and cut. If the split ring is not hanging on the plastic pin, pull the pin and re-insert it so the line goes along the side of the pin away from the split ring. Confirm the diver's new rear snap is around the mainline and closed. Deploy the diver under tension, do not let it free spool out as it can spin. Some final thoughts: This release was originally designed for dropping a weight when a fish hits a trolled lure. It's pretty good at not accidentally dropping the weight when you pull on the rod to reel in the line. This means the release is directional with respect to the pressure needed to cause it to trip. By following my instructions in part A, I've set the release up so it WILL trip when pulled from the boat. This means the tighter side is oriented towards the fish giving a really strong hook set, somewhat stronger than the diver's original release. This means it can tow a large fish shaped attractor or paddle and long meat rig and bait without tripping from the pull of the terminal tackle. It also means that small fish will have difficulty tripping the release. You may have to give the rod a swift but light-handed pop to trip the release when you catch a small fish. This rigging requires a bit more attention on your part to rig compared to the standard method, but in my mind the little bit of finessing and extra attention to rig and run this FAR outweighs the struggle needed to deal with extra-long, “unnettable†leader lengths and large fish. Once you get the hang of rigging, it's really no more difficult than rigging a slide diver. Also, unlike a slide diver, this rigging method allows you to remove the diver for storage. Slide divers must be stored with the rod as there's no way to remove them from the line (unless, of course, you cut the line and remove them). -
I wanted to thank everyone who purchased raffle tickets for my custom rod during the salmon school. Together, we raised over $500 which LOTSA will use to purchase a lot of prizes for kids in this year's tournament.
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Niagara Fishing Expo/ LOTSA Jan 23-25
John E Powell replied to Legacy's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Tom, Thanks for the kind words. In checking in with Joe Yaeger yesterday, It sounds like they would like to use the custom rod as a raffle prize with tickets sold to attendees of Saturday's salmon school. Proceeds from the raffle will fund the purchase of various fishing gear targeted to kids. The kids fishing gear will later be given away as prizes. Joe asked me to coordinate the raffle ticket sales for the rod at the seminar, so I'll be doing that. I'll have the rod at the seminar, and I believe the plan is to draw the winning ticket at the end of the day. I'll make a final announcement with all the details at some point tomorrow morning during the seminar. It's my understanding that the funding of the spring rearing nets (which I mentioned in an earlier post) is happening in a different way. -
LOTSA Salmon School
John E Powell replied to smallboat's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Yes. As to the hours, I believe the outside doors open at 7:00 and the doors to the seminar room will open at 7:30. Maybe Tim or someone else can confirm. -
Niagara Fishing Expo/ LOTSA Jan 23-25
John E Powell replied to Legacy's topic in Open Lake Discussion
I'll be donating a custom rod for one of the raffles prizes. I'm not sure if LOTSA plans to raffle it off as one of the prizes for Saturday's seminar or if it will be one of the raffle prizes for the Sunday marketplace (or possibly both days). If you're interested, don't forget to inquire about it when you're at the convention center. I believe the proceeds will go to help cover some of the expenses LOTSA incurs running the pen rearing project in Olcott Harbor each spring. -
Perchfishing... /smile
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I think there's probably quite a big difference between the new Ray Evolution series which is a new design and older models. I was chatting with a couple reps from various companies about autopilots last year and the consensus seemed to be that an autopilot install is not something the average weekend warrior should attempt. Independently the three guys I talked to said most of the problems people experience comes from incorrect installation and setup. I decided to wait a year to save up a little more to get mine professionally installed by a NMEA certified installer. I'm leaning toward the mid range Garmin myself as I already have a fairly extensive Garmin network and various devices. Ease of software updates over the network is really attractive to me. I can do that myself. Another brand would require sending the unit out for updates. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
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I've been on a few boats with the Garmin units, no complaints, and I've heard really good things about the new Raytheon unit. I'm torn between the two myself. The Raytheon is a bit newer, more high tech, but the Garmin is pretty much plug and play with my existing Garmin network. Are you planning to install it yourself or have someone else do it? If someone else, I'd give serious consideration to go by what they have past experience working with. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Same as a Bayliner? OMG I just snorted my diet coke out my nose! Let's see, neither you or your "best buddy from high school" own a whaler, nor may ever have, but hey, he works for a top 5 dealer of "Pursuit, Tiara, Grady, etc. " [etc - apparently a few more makes too numerous to list]... I'll tell you what. Go buy a big boat farm any of the manufacturers you listed and do this to it: Or this: Or this: http://s23.photobucket.com/user/JRWJR/media/Misc%20pics/Dumptruck_72.jpg.html Or 22 tons of steel tracked dozer: http://www.albertgrouplandscaping.com/Portals/87730/images/fiberglass%20boat%20bulldozer-resized-600.JPG Maybe you or your best buddy from high school can provide some actual proof, not here say, about all the "horror stories" surrounding Boston Whaler products? Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Was just talking about this today in class with my kids. (they were whining about school not being closed) Global warming causes changes to climate patterns. Some areas get wetter, some drier, some warmer, some colder, some more windy, some less. It doesn't mean the whole world gets warmer... It means that most places experience an intensifying of what they normally experience. It's easy to make jokes when the wind chill is -10, but for the young guys out there, when was they last time there was enough snow built up on the ground for kids to carve tunnels under the snow and build forts? When I was a kid in the 60s my friends and I would dig elaborate labyrinths of tunnels in the snow drifts every year. Kenmore, where I grew up, actually had sidewalk plows so you could walk to school without having to walk on the streets - the snow would be built up so high you couldn't see over the top ( from a 4.5' tall kid's point of view)... Now the snow falls and a week later it's gone. Look how fast the 7-8 foot drifts that socked in the Southtowns of Buffalo earlier this year disappeared... they were gone in 3 days. I'd call that pretty intense climate patterns...
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Keep in mind reels work best when filled as intended, to capacity. They will still work if you don't, but the balanced interplay between gear ratios, crank handle radius, and the loaded spool diameter will be other than what the engineers who designed the reel intended. If you don't back a large reel's spool and only fill it 2/3 of the way the drag will be otherwise more sticky and you won't have anywhere near the rated inches per turn retrieval rate. Some people use superb braid for backing and claim they can keep the braid from slipping on the spool with various techniques, but it's just easier to use mono for backing and avoid the potential problems. Mono grips the spool tightly and won't slip. Problem avoided. I use 25lb Trilene Big Game for wire backing. On the other end I will only use a fluorocarbon leader if I am running a slide diver or rigging a fixed diver to slide. Otherwise, the wire goes right to a heavy snap swivel which attaches to the diver. The 19 strand is a lot more forgiving overall than 7 strand. They both can kink and fail. Seven strand tends to fail without warning and you lose your snap, diver, and lure or attractor and lure. When 19 strand is about to fail, some of the fine outer strands will break and unwind into a fuzzy birds nest like spot that you can see. In this way it warns you that a failure is imminent and you can repair it. You still lose line when you cut out the bad section, but you haven't lost the snap, diver, and bait(s). I run fluorocarbon leaders behind divers as light as 12lb for browns, and up to 25 for attractors targeting salmon. Rigging fixed divers to slide is another topic but the backing / full spool stuff above doesn't change. Sent from my iPad using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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The 19 strand from Torpedo is my favorite. To get a full reel, load it backwards first, this way you put the backing on last and get the exact amount you need to fill the reel. Then take it off and put in on regularly and the wire will be right up to the top where you want it.
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It's difficult to make a recommendation for the original poster because he doesn't say what he doesn't like about the rods he has. Are they too stiff, soft, no feel, unbalanced, too long, too short? Is quality of the build poor, or maybe fit and finish? Are components failing? Reel seat not holding the reel tight? Length of grips wrong - are you reaching out too far or are your hands too close next to your chest? Asking people for recommendations about what they like doesn't assure that you will like them for the same reasons they do. As a rodbuilder, I can make some recommendations based upon rods meeting a minimum build quality standard that have a proven history of holding up well over time (I know this because I frequently see rods in need of repair and some rods recommended above are certainly repeat offenders), and I can match it up with anecdotal feedback i've heard as people describe what aspects of factory rods they like and don't like. Having said that, from a componentry quality and build construction standpoint, you get a lot of value from Ugly Stick big water trolling rods, particularly the 7' and 8'3 models. They're practically bulletproof. I know some people that have more than 20 years service on them. Their front grips are a bit small in diameter for some people compared to other rods, so that might be a problem if you have a large frame or xl hands, but most people find the grip lengths comfortable and well placed. If you have the cash for an upgrade, the mid to higher lines of moderate action composite rods (not all graphite) from Lamaglas and St. Croix salmon/steelhead rods are really nice and both companies have a long track record of honoring warranties that are really insurance policies, not just warranties. By insurance policies I mean they generally will replace a rod that you broke that is not actually covered under a materials and defects type warranty. In the past, I used to include a few more mfg and rods in my factory recommended rods, but either their components or build quality has slipped, or they weakened their warranties/insurance policies as they try to lower prices to remain competitive in a market segment of the fishing industry that is considered saturated and in decline. If you don't mind replacing rods every few years, you could certainly choose just about any rod at any price that met your personal standards. If you want something for the long haul, the entry point is an Ugly Stik. For the purpose of being forthcoming, I have no interest or connection to Shakespeare, Lamiglas, or St. Croix other than I sometimes use one particular lamiglas blank, no longer in production, to build inside magnum wire diver rods.
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Low range probably not unless you were spinning your tires from too much pedal. I've done a fair bit of off roading, trail riding, and even hobby level off road racing. The problem with 3/4 truck is that their suspension is designed to carry heavy loads. This extra capacity comes at the expense of suspension articulation. Articulation is the ability of a suspension to flex as it follows the ground maintaining close to equal tire pressure. With 3/4 ton trucks, articulation is poor and on uneven heavily rutted roads tire contact pressure on one side can lessen to the point that it will spin freely with very little power applied. This is why I recommend the differential upgrade because it will more equally distribute power to the tire with high contact pressure instead of sending all the power to the tire that turns more easily, that being the one that is spinning and not grabbing. With an open axle, the power goes to the tire with the least resistance, not where you want it the tire with more resistance from traction. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
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Not suggesting you've got bad recommendations on tires, owned and loved a set of geolanders myself, but check out tire rack's site for good comparative testing and recommendations. With tires, what was great a few years ago are often just good tires today. I've never had a bad set of tires based on their recommendations. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
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With your truck, which has abundant torque, there are really only two important factors to consider. Tires and differentials. Tires are sort of obvious, but consider what you have now and how you use your truck. If you don't load it to the max, you might be better suited with tires that have softer sidewalls and a more aggressive all terrain tread pattern. You haven't elaborated on the year of your truck, but you may or may not be able to increase the diameter significantly without causing problems with the computer system on newer vehicles. As for differentials, traditional 4x4 systems in trucks, as compared to all wheel drive systems (and others), often have what are called open axles front and back. The wheels are not locked to each other on the same axle so they turn independently of each other. If they were locked together, the vehicle wouldn't turn easily - on dry pavement, it would actually be hard to turn and you would feel a noticeable hop and experience poor handling as the tries break free from the pavement in turns. When turning, the outside wheel needs to turn faster than the inside wheel. It's a common misconception that 4x4s pull with all 4 tires, they really only pull with one tire on each axle unless they have some device to send power to both tires on an axle. Traction control devices like positraction, limited-slip differentials, or locking differentials alter how the open differential works. Depending on the style, some or all of the power sent to an axle is distributed to both wheels on an axle instead of just one. This is good for traction but bad for steering. You truck may already have a limited slip device in the rear axle. It may or may not be working, depending on the style, factory installed traction control differentials may wear out over time and function as if the axle didn't have the device installed (like an open axle). This would be the first thing to check. Few conventional 4x4s have posi, limited slip or locking differentials in the front. This is because they can affect the handling characteristics of the vehicle on slippery surfaces. However, front traction control differentials do provide more benefits than rear axles in 4x4 pickups because that is where the weight is. Depending on the axle in your truck and the 4x4 system in your truck's transfer case, you could install a limited slip differential which would greatly improve the traction without too much of a handling penalty when the 4x4 system is engaged. If you decide to go this route, don't go for a full locking device, they're great for raw pulling power, but lousy to drive as both wheels always turn at the same speed (and this is very bad for steering and handling of your truck at anything but the lowest off road speeds). I have Eaton Truetrac in the front and back of my truck and the only thing that will stop it is ground clearance problems where the axle or body hangs up on something. They're sort of old school but are a good balance between traction and handling. I can also recommend the differential from AuburnGear. They offer a similar balance between traction and handling. So, in summary my advice is 1) consider the load you carry and how well the tires match your driving habits. 2) Check for and confirm correct operation of any factory-installed rear axle traction device. 3) Install a front axle traction control device offering a balance of traction and handling (no lockers). This should be all you need, but if you still need more traction 4) consider a similar differential upgrade for the rear. Remember because your truck is nose heavy, upgrading the front axle will make a bigger difference in your truck capability than upgrading the rear end.