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Let the rain keep me in last night so got on the water by 5:30 AM today. First two hours nothing fishing spot from previous posts.It has always been a better evening/night area. moved to a "new" area and picked up one as the fog drifted in and out. Same deal, 8 oz BB with a thunderstick behind. Running into the current, speed over ground 1.1, water temp 56.3, 35 FOW. Also pulled a flat line at the same time with a taildancer back 150 ft. Not getting good depth as I need to take the mono off of the used Daiwa 27HLC's I bought and downsize. Think I've got too much diameter. Any suggestions for line?
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Yeah, Boat traffic pretty intense yesterday and I agree that the water is behind warming up this year. Going to hit it again tonight. Will keep you posted.
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The willingness of guys like Kevin and others on this board, to share information that took lifetimes to acquire, is what got those fish caught last night! I've jigged that spot a dozen times a summer for the last 4 years and might have taken 10 fish in total. By the way, Kevin never mentioned what it's like to net those fish alone when you've got a half pound of lead dangling between you and the fish and the current twisting the boat exactly the opposite way you hoped it would go. Glad there were no witnesses!
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Finally put things together ... right program in a good spot...5th time out... 5 for 6 with two shorties. Best fist was just over 24", but went a little over 5 1/4 lbs on my trusty old green fish de-lier. Pulled the storm floater behind my home-made bottom bouncer a la Kevin Legg's instructions. Bouncer weighs about 8 oz. I was fishing a heavy current section where there is a long 30 -35 ft shelf pretty tight to shore that drops to 90 feet quickly. I used to vertical jig out there. Speed over ground (GPS) upstream about 1.2 to 1.5, downstream about 2.8. Caught fish going both ways. Even with that heavy a bouncer it was hard to get that nice 45 degree angle with the current and i had to let out quite a bit of line to get down. No matter, it worked. I've got to admit, I spent quite a few hours getting the hang of pulling these things. I also laid down a few waypoints in the daylight so I could be pretty precise following the contour and not have to keep adjusting line out for big depth changes. 30 feet in and you're on shore, 40 feet out and you're over 100. Thanks to everyone for posting such good info to help me get started.
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Sure appreciate the advice and information you guys are willing to share. Gave it a couple hours this AM mostly trying to get a feel for the heavy bottom bouncers in the current out front. No fish caught, but no gear lost yet either.
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Years ago we used to hand line lead core on Oneida with very light flutter spoons, bites almost always triggered by that stopped, flutter back action. A lot different than what PAP and Roughrider are talking about here, but I do remember losing a lot of fish to slack line without a rod. I my original gear list, I forgot to mention a "boat trailer". I wonder what the post spawn fishing downriver offers? I've never been afraid to take a charter to learn, and I know there are guys operating down in the Morristown area.
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This is the season I've decided to work hard on understanding how to be successful catching eyes on the river as I've decided to make this my retirement home. After a winter of reading as many posts as I could find, restocking my tackle boxes using ALL of my Cabela's bonus bucks, pouring some bottom bouncers that seem like they will break my arm after the first couple of hours, I'm good to go. Opening weekend was the annual family pilgrimage to Sacandaga for northerns. We generally are bait fishing post spawn monsters and between the early start date and ridiculously low water, I think we were early. Did get a few, only one in the mid 40's, all released. Since then it's been bullheads here ... just because .. who really doesn't like bullhead fishing? Lots of action, easy to clean and great on the table. As the water is beginning to warm in places, I'm wondering when the walleye gurus get started? I don't see anyone deep water jigging at dusk as they do in the summer. Also with such diverse structural elements, what should I be seeking this time of year here? I have lots of experience on Oneida and Delta, but just getting used to a totally different type of fishery is challenging. I have accumulated all of the associated gear, trolling motor, kicker, riggers, planers and am experienced with all of them. I like to troll, and the advantage this time of year is a distinct lack of crap on the surface. However, I just don't see guys out yet. Is that because fishing is impossible, or is it because they just aren't done with the opening up chores and fishing yet? I know post spawn is tough, and my guess is with the frigid water here, they spawn late. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. My home stretch is Fisher's Landing to Alex Bay. Gene (Prof T)
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Sold / Closed 2 Daiwa Accudepth 27LC Combo's
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Just got back from a Sunday drive. Oneida Lake is still 80% covered w/ ice with very little breakup along the North Shore. Visited the hatchery and they have NOT yet set nets for walleye. All of the troughs are empty, although the creek next door is stacked with fish ready to spawn. Seeing that alone was worth the drive. Wish I knew where those big breeders spent the summer! Boats are ready to go and I was told they are going to try to get started Tuesday, but a shift in the wind and ice breakup will raise hell with the process. If you're in the neighborhood over the next couple weeks, it's a good show. Big difference from the salmon process in that fish are stripped and returned to the lake, relatively unharmed. They also bring in some notable "other" species for display that end up in the nets. I also photographed a chart they had on the wall and it is attached here as a photo. That's a lot of walleyes stocked from this one hatchery, and lots of lakes benefit besides just Oneida. I'm from Rome and I know Lake Delta is a big beneficiary, as well as many others.
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After reading 4 hours worth of posts from the past couple of seasons, and with some great advice from Kevin Legg, I decided to pour some bottom bouncers for the upcoming season. My fishing is on the St Lawrence these days, and 3 to 4 knot currents have a way of making bottom contact a "challenge". The top bb is a Bass Pro 4 oz for size comparison. My smaller one is 4" 1/2 lead filled copper tube at 8oz. Next is a 6" at a little over 10oz. I used wire from the flags like the ones National Grid uses to mark underground power lines. Don't stress, they can be purchased at Lowes. I did pour an 8 incher on a coat hanger.... hope I never have to use it! Now I need to get out the dumbells to build up the strength to use them.
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Give this a try: Goose Balls Slice 2 breast fillets lengthwise into 3 strips Cut those strips into 5 or 6 equal size bite size cubes Place your 30 or so cubes on a flat cutting board or plastic surface Use a macerator (see pic) and puncture the cubes twice, the second pass at 90 degrees to the first Mix em up and repeat Give them a generous dusting of garlic salt and pepper. Cut a slice of bacon in thirds, then cut each piece lengthwise in half Wrap each cube in a bacon slice and skewer, leaving a little space. I break the bamboo into smaller kabobs of about 5 pieces. Wrap tightly in saran wrap and refrigerate for at least 2 hours. (Allows spice to permeate meat) Grill on high heat, hitting all four sides to char, but DO NOT OVERCOOK. When bacon is done, so is the goose. You will be amazed at how good this simple, cheap recipe tastes without trying to make the meat taste like something it isn’t. Be sure to eat while hot. Ours don’t make it far away from the grill!
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Retired to the river in 2012 and have been living the dream. Enjoying fall fishing as I never used to fit it in with kids and waterfowling leading up to deer hunting. Now I fish more than ever. Glad to see guys here willing to help newcomers get started and am looking forward to sharing some of the things I've picked up over a few decades myself. Had a good day on the big lake last Monday...fished off of Galoo and our boat of 4 picked up 15 of those fat pig smallies out there. Nice to hear spinning reel drags scream for a change. Fished crabs and minnows just out of reach of the gobies. Glad I'm not there today...waves must be 8 feet.