You guys must be using swivels, I've tried tying it back to back Uni knots for leads and none of it works for me, It all breaks at the knots, Wet or dry, I can get it to work with swivels but I don't like running swivels. I use Berkley Big game 10# for my leads and it never breaks. Lets get back to the Seth green rig, My brother uses it and kills fish on this rig, Constantly out fishes me with it, He runs two poles off one corner of my boat, I can run everything under the sun off the other side and he just slaughters the fish on the side with the Seth greens, Pain in the rear getting fish in but he gets them. We start off with his rigs to see what the fish want, When we find out, It's all in on what he's using. Riggers, Dipsy's ,Slide divers , Leadcore The hole deal goes with what he's using.