This one I can answer emphatically from experience. Tileman Dan is absolutely correct. I ended up with wire dipsy, copper, and leadcore all in a ball on my deck. Learning experience to say the least. Stayed away from copper ever since. To stay with this thread, can anyone give some basic tips on how to launch a copper line on a board when dipsy is out in order to avoid a mess? Sent from my SM-G900V using Lake Ontario United mobile app