Wow I have learned a lot here guys. Thanks for the detailed responses. I really never thought of line diameter past being helpful for fleas. Need to heavily rethink Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Out Saturday with a full boat of guys who don’t fish much. Dropped in 170 and concentrated on 170-240. Bite was steady from 530-noon with spoons and meat for us Anything with blue on it was hot 10 color w mag spoon took our second biggest mature while meat rig took our largest off rigger parked at 99. Healthy mix of steelies on top and kings beneath. Dropped quite a lot of fish this trip but landed plenty enough to keep group happy. 44 degrees down 65 over 120-240 is what we seemed to find Tried downspeeds of 1.8-3.1 but our best zone was 2-2.4. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
I have to agree. This yr we changed and despoiled all rigger poles with 40# big game And then leader appropriately. Fleas are very minimal on them. Is there a downside that I am missing to what we are doing? Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
In addition to the pounding they take, you will be surprised how hard they are to get out of the holder when a nasty king is on the other end. In particular if you have people with you that aren’t used to it. Lots of ratcheting holder options that are sweet for this application out there. We use big jobs heavy duty ratcheting and they are fantastic. As others have said though, get the most heavy duty you can afford and secure on your boat. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Well I’m sure there are a lot more technical answers out there but we don’t change ours due to clarity. We do change due to depth and time of yr. so in spring we run long leads. This time of yr our general rule of thumb is the deeper we run our gear the tighter our leads. If we are running gear pretty shallow our leads increase. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Yeah that may have been. I use familiar bite as well. I keep it in the package and stick it in the ice in cooler. Then use throughout the trip with no problems usually Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
This time of year we run 10-15ft back. Sometimes run them tighter like 6-8 if trying to avoid tangles with current etc Each day presents diff so you may need to adjust Longer like 30-50 in early spring king water Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
I’ve done it multiple ways with no difference. I’ve kept it frozen til it hits the water and also have run it thawed. You gotta remember when it hits the surface water it will thaw quickly anyways especially if using pre cut strips In my opinion the thing that makes the greatest difference is the roll behind your rig. If tuned correctly it is deadly Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Logger Gen- do you go with longer leaders and then hand line at the end to the net? I go 8-10’ just due to that reason. Very interesting Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
So appreciative of pros like you willing to make this sport doable for the rest of us!!!! Great trip ! Question about the coppers. This time of year what are you usually running behind them? Thanks so much Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
PS. Once you experience a wire dipsey king strike you are smoked. You will be addicted if you already aren’t. Don’t set the hook. Just hold on Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Dipseys are the way to go for your next lines imo. Agree with all above. No brained. My only advice is spend the extra money and get a decent rod (rod with twili tip is fine. Do not need roller) if using wire and a good reel. These rigs will take a pounding on hits and will get a lot of hits. Quality drags are a must. I also prefer wire for my dipseys but that’s just me Good luck. You will not regret it Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United
Yeah agreed. Other issue is the rigger. The new cannons are too fast and the quick stops really put undue strain on the cables Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United