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Thanks. I reved it to see if it would die when I gave it gas never let it stay. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Now after a few tries to make sure it was good... Won't fire... Improperly gapped maybe? Would switching this to electronic ignition get rid of the issue... Seems this could be simply but not really lol Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So I just started it up... Turned the distributor ccw around 45*... Now it runs beautifully... Idk what the deal is... Didn't touch the lash just took the cover off... Fired it up... Turned distributor... Bam...she runs. Gave her gas right up to 40k. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

OK. Spec said 3/4 turn cold. Is that also with the motor running or should I just put it half turn. One video said 3/4 plus a little. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app At tdc Also the rods can still be twisted. Thought they were suppose to be tightened till they couldn't twist any more and then add 3/4 turn?

Specs say 3/4 turn. But for my knowledge how are you suppose to do it. Watch its something stupid like condensation from a metal tank. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Let's say he had everything with the timing right. Black ash like material was coming out of the exhaust and floating on the surface. I'm going to put it back the way he had everything and put muffs on it see if its still doing it. Could it be the carb messed up? He said it seemed like it was getting to much fuel. If I remember right he adjusted the carb but it made no difference Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

If he has everything right except dwell, will it run rough? He only had a meter that read for 6 and 8 cylinder so he says... I would assume that dwell would cause btdc to be off along with the rest? Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

So he has the plugs right in picture I posted. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The old one is fiber and the new one is aluminum. Waiting is what I'll end up doing. Plenty of stuff to do before the snow flies Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I personally think its the missing shim also. If the gear is in to far or out to far it would put the teeth off as well in my head anyway. It started raining so I'll check it all out tomorrow. Nick is suppose to look at this weekend but I'm getting a pretty good understanding after all your help and Fran from Barret. Fran said bring it up to tdc. Then rotate the cap backwards til I see it spark with the key on. Tighten it down and it should be timed right without using a timing gun. I didn't quote him because I may not of said exactly what he said. Who knows it might just be the plug wires in wrong order but I still think its the shim missing screwing this all up Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

If the picture pap posted is right I know his plug order is wrong. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

When I get home I'll make sure I rotate it to tdc. And see where the distr. Rotor is. I'm pretty sure our mechanic did all that. I'll update when I get home Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

No I don't. How do I tell? Sorry, I'm jumping in now because I have a better understanding then I did and its already messed up... So worst I can do is put the plugs in wrong order and make the timing worse right? Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I changed the plug wires around to what made sense to me. If #1 is at the bottom right, then #2 wire would be bottom left yes? If that's the case i put the wires to that order, which it sounded better, didn't fire up, but also sounded like it was under pressure. The battery is dying and looks like some rain moving in. When I rotated the crank so the mark matched the timing cover mark I took the the distributor top off and the rotor is exactly 180 off from his marks for #1 cylinder. Is the distributor just in 180? Also the positive that goes from distributor to coil is connected on the negative side of the coil. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Immediately I notice.... He has the wires 1234. From front to back. He has the red wire that comes from the distributor to the coil on the negative side( red means positive with out a stripe correct?) If the wires are wrong then the lengths are wrong and the timing of the #1 cylinder firing will be off ? I have to take the distributor out, and coil off to get the vavle cover off. Can I tell by taking the rocker cover off? Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Pap, I will take the valve cover off and rotate the motor until both valves are closed then see where the rotor is. If the rotor is off I just take the distributor out and rotate toward the #1 mark he made? I'll take pictures here shortly Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Serial is 356836 on motor. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Also when it turns over the start rings like a bell on the fly wheel. Mind you we didn't have to pull the motor because it is basically all open. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

He used a drill to pump oil up threw the lifters. He adjusted then did it again to double check. The only thing I can think of is he didn't put that metal shim in and that is putting the distributor off. I'm going to get the old cam and old fiber gear back today. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Yes new valves. Here is a list of new parts we put in it. Head gasket Valve gasket Rocker cover gasket Camshaft Valves Timing gear Plugs wire Plugs Coil Condenser Points Exhaust elbow All exhaust gaskets The head gasket was blown out between #1and #2. Guy in port Byron said that was common with these motors. Same with those lobes wearing down Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Plugs are covered in black but not wet Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

It sounds better but it shakes hard and only runs with throttle. Dies out if it idles. Basically got rid of a tick to have an non operative motor... Old gear was fiber new one is aluminum. Don't know if I mentioned that Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

When I watched him install the distributor, its like it wouldn't drop in perfect. It would drop in mid tooth... That's why I question if the gear is on backwards. I don't even know if that's possible. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

We have tried both advanced and retarded. No difference. Didn't replace the chain. Sent from my XT1528 using Lake Ontario United mobile app