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Well how about Keyuka lake? Long time ago was a smelt and big laker lake with other trout species being caaught frequently. 10 to 15 years ago was a lots of 5 - 8 pounders and alwives only, no smelt. Now the little lakers ( rarely over 23 inches) are eating perch. what happened there. Ten years ago there were two ice fishing season in a row where you could walk out to the bluffs then the next year the big flood, what effect did they have? We fish it because we don't like the bigger water but in 20 years what a change.......jk

Excellent discussion and reply's keep them coming please.......jk

Fished there yesterday and the water clarity was poor, could only see the lure four feet down. Those fish don't move in those conditions and we caught none. But the bas were biting. I think they might get vertigo or are so far sighted that they can't orientate themselves and freeze in one spot. So stopped and had an ice cream on the way home........jk

Still fun to fish there, we only have a small boat and the owner does not like bigger water. It is fishing and catching and fun. Oh we only jig.......jk

Go with someone that is knowledgeable or even a charter and ask them. Post on here to go along with some and get ideas from them. there are a lot of highly skilled people that would help you on this web site. Find someone local to you so you can visit them once in a while for ideas. The classified section here has a lot of equipment for sale to cut your cost too.......kj

I am running a 1977 Johnson 15 on a 14 foot Grumman. I got when I was over seas and had it delivered to a dealer near my house. I never saw it for two years. Still runs great. Use it on the finger lakes and in Canada---well I used to use in it in Canada. Haven't been there in a few years now. I just got a 10 year old used 9.9 4 cycle Merc but have not used it yet.....jk

When we see only one fish we throttle up the motor fast on a tight turn and that sometime (most times) bring the rest of the herd into view on the TV. We live on the TV someone is always reading it to the others. The hard hits to tell are when you are pounding bottom with the jig, they seem to try to push it futher into the bottom. Makes a weird hit = set the hook. Lots of bumpies on every trip. we have only snagged up maybe once a year so dont worry about the bottom....jk

Oh white tube jigs(by Getis) is most common in our boat. But paddle tails and Berkley minnows of white color with florescent green or what ever tails also are common. I always try something different on our boat like the metal baits and rapapl ice fishing jigs. Reread guff's, chowder's and Gator post again and again. /try everything and see what works for you. A lot of GOOD info from some good fisherman there.......jk

We fish there a lot. Use 1ounce jigs mid day. In the mornings you can use the 1/2 ounce jigs as they are shallow or use any thing you mentioned. Blade baits, jig rapalas, and cleos all will work. The fish are small, a 24 incher is a decent fish. We start at day lite in shallow and once they scatter we go to 100 feet. I think we might be missing something that deep but it is not my boat and we do get a slow steady bite there and a lot of bumbies. Up near the state launch and down at the bluff (where the two parts join). You will see little bait. I have no idea what happened to the ciscos that they stocked maybe the lakers ate too many.......jk

Yes great show and as he said thanks for all the work you must put into it......jk