Bozeman Bob

A Seiche a few years ago made mincemeat of the boom , ice went over the 8' high stone walls on the Canadian side . From the Peace Bridge to the actual Fort Erie about a mile or so up river. And the boom itself loses sections just about every year . So all this ice that got " out " maybe damaged docks ,maybe it didn't .Most of the newer docks are steel pilons , set back or angled a bit with the river flow , which would minimize damage . So Mother Nature can still do what it always did ,Power Authority or no $$ Power Authority. Just isn't consistent enough for any bottom scouring to be effective. Not sure where I read or heard the gripe about that , maybe a Musky meeting from years ago ? Farmers were beefing a few years after it went in . Ever go to downtown Buffalo when its 70* at the airport and 50* on the waterfront in June , wonder how they like there May and June heating bills .Except for Power Authority and some politicians I really haven't seen any positive things written about it .i also believe that the lake formed its own natural boom at the mouth of the river and came apart when nature did it's thing , which could of been scouring up the bottom of the river as well .

Yes more docks have been built , the population grew on Grand Island , more people bought river front property $$ and subsequently put up homes and docks . Has nothing to do with a boom being put in place . Talk to a local farmer if you want to hear about the affect on temps this plays havoc with . No water intakes ( all two of them ) are damaged from ice . They do have one or two small tugs that push ice away from the two intakes on the USA side . The Canadian side uses the Chippewa river to feed there power plant and do not have any issues with water flow .

So what happened to all the riverfront property , docks before the ice boom was installed ? They survived with minimal damage . Lived by the river before and after the boom and saw no damage without the boom . Speaking of damage , what about the farmers who now , thanks to the ice boom , have a shorter growing season due to the boom holding all that ice in the Eastern basin . Yes , it prolongs spring for weeks ,if not longer ,because of the cold air coming off the lake . If your out dodging a ice flow ,maybe use your brain and wait until it is flushed out

No , the ice boom.was put in for one reason $ , follow the money . The Power Authority wanted the water intakes to get minimal amount of ice ,allowing for maximum water flow into the turbines . The Power A comes up with , we wanted to prevent ice damage to the homes / docks on G Island . Problem was , there wasn't a problem with that . And guess what , when they didn't have the ice boom , the large chunks of ice would bottom out on the river bed , cleaning and semi dredging the river bed , which was good for the upper river fish . That's all done now . According to the boom people , 90% of the ice melts before even getting to the boom itself . Not nice to mess with Mother Nature ,,,, IMHO they should of never put that boom in .

One was relevant, the other is as irrelevant as you .

And yet , you bring it up again. In your last post . Apparently someone is living rent free in your dome , get a shot ,maybe it will go away .

So why doesn't NY pay for it out of there own pocket ? They take in hundreds of millions in license fees and taxes on ( fishing) boats , motors , trailers , lodgings , gas and gear etc . Or does all those hundreds of millions go into a slush fund and is distributed to whatever " they " deem worthy ? Horseface has zero clout with the current administration, do you think the Feds would even listen to her if she asked them for MORE relief money because of her screwed up policies . See what the COs have had to put up with because of failed laws . Or maybe the 59 million spent in NYC on hotels for illegals , might have a bearing on the Feds handing this power hungry biotch any more money .

Brand new , back to the dealer it goes . That's there problem at this point .

Two bags will 100 % settle down the hull in the ditch , one is better than none ,but not nearly as efficient as two .

Maybe I Yes , I and many others use this method while trolling , it would take too long to pull the spread in and use the hand method . Which I did use while catching more than my fair share of Muskies over the years. Your looking at planner boards , dipsey divers and riggers to bring in , about 9 rods most of the time . Figure 15-20 minutes to accomplish that , which means after a few minutes the fish is DOA ,waiting for the gear to come in . We use about 8 -10' of light line , put the grip on while it's on the deck , then drop it in . When it's kicking we pull it back to the stern , and release the grip without removing the fish from the water. All I know is ,it's very very successful and was wondering if it could be applied to a Musky , IF all the other methods didn't work . Yes once in awhile you get one that doesn't make it , and yes most are stocked . I get all that , it's just a bad look having fish floating off your stern . And who knows if the fish we revived doesn't get caught again before it's time is up . Lakers are pretty hardy , don't bother with dragging them , they all swim away ,no matter how they are handled . Unlike Kings that faint at the sight of the boat ,haha , for the most part matures are somewhat fragile .

Maybe I should reword my question ,statement . After trying to release the fish while still in the water ,let's say the hooks were not cooperating, then bring it aboard in a gurney type plastic neck , carefully removing the hooks while not touching the fish then gently putting it back in the water while holding it just above the tail ,then pulling it back and forth trying to get water going past the gills , the fish doesn't revive. Has anyone tried to put a plastic wide tip boga style grip over the lips and slowly ,as in 1mph , pull the fish through the water ? This works for me with other species of fish , with no apparent harm to them , no I don't have a underwater camera to verify they are not belly up laying on the bottom 5 minutes after I release them . I will assume 90 +% live a normal life after released that way .

No , I do not know if after a King swims away when released , diving into the depths , if it has a relapse and floats to the surface . I've yet to see any pop back up ,so I'm hopeful that it works . I use a wider tip ,plastic style boga , which goes over the lips and pinches the bottom of the mouth . Don't think that is going to deform a fish . Yes ,the fights are different and the King is way more spent ,which means they are harder to revieve , so be it that they are stocked and have a 3 or so year life span . Kings also react negatively to being pulled from 45* water to 65+* , it can be a knock out punch to them . Those fish all survive when pulled behind the boat , sometimes for 5- 10 minutes . All the Muskies I caught back in the 90s ( or whenever the NMA was formed , original member . Can remember some harsh words from the first meeting , CR vs kill and put on Hanks board . ) were extremely hardy fish , don't recall many ,if any , not swimming away after being caught . Just making a suggestion and appreciate your reply and reasonings. And I'm not suggesting you pick up the Ski with a boga grip , more of a last gasp measure in case she is spent when you gently place her back into the water .

Surprised no one has mentioned a boga grip or similar tool with 6-10' of line attached to pull the Musky behind the boat. That method works 90% of the time with Kings ,which go belly up quicker than Musky's .