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Otisco Tiger's are hungery
NPike replied to gonefishing71's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
I caught x2 ~ 5+ pound pike that were severely mauled similar to that bass on Conesus this year. both wwere at least 28+". Could have been a pike or a tiger. -
Thank you Ivan for the feedback. Baits I use anywhere from 5.5" to 9": some wood some plastic: Salt Water X-Rap, Shine and Glide, Treble-D, etc. I've often thought they got the bait in their mouths grapping the body without really getting the hooks in a position that allows for a solidly hooked fish. You seem to have gotten the nail on the head. My partner fishes with blades I defiantly get more hits. We both catch fish.
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Sometimes I’m have trouble keeping the toothy critters on with jerkbaits (1.5 to 3.5) oz. Ya some of them let go too quickly to react. But sometimes even after a good hook set and having the fish on for a bit it mysteriously gets off. Strangely when a 5 or more pound bass or walleye bites I rarely lose it. The problem is not lack of sharp hooks. Thanks
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My experiences are relatively limited but I've got a few in the deeper North end in shallow and out deeper casting with pull baits and jerk baits. Like Treple-D and 4 Play Liplure. Seen I'm bite from 5 to " 35'. Wherever the perch are. Hope that helps.
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For 1 thing Conesus has ~5 "or more" times bass to essox of any kind swimming in it's depths. I caught 7 tigers last year between (44 to 33)" and 8 pike between (37 to 33)" by casting. So I'm pretty satisfied with the essox population in Conesus. Not to mention a number of 6 to 4 pound bass. However I generally have to work for these fish and get skunked from time to time. Sure there are bigger fish in Chautauqua. I do agree many big breeder pike are removed in the later winter busting full of eggs, this is a shame and a slot limit should be but in place to curtail this. But in general I think Conesus is well managed with the 7k+ tiger stocked for the last 5 years (at least) and the well managed pike breeding ponds. BTW thank you for the suggestion I find trolling to inactive, used to fish for l_trout. Sorry for any repeat just wanted to sum it up for Conesus. It can be a tough lake at times as well and sometime it can be on fire.
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I only spin cast and it seems to be as good as any way to find the bigger fish on Conesus. BTW 39" is a very nice fish that was bigger than my 38" big fish of 2 years ago year. I've only gotten 2 over 40" so they are not caught very often on Conesus at this size. I actually just had one up to the boat that was 40"+ hooked on a 3 1/2 X-Rap fishing for smallies. What a fight my wrist was sore.
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I got one over 30 pounds (the thing was a pig) fishing a X-Rap for pike on Conesus. I knew it wasn't essox by the way it fought, but still took almost 10 minutes to get it in. They are strong fish particularly when they are giants.
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Seen plenty of Tigers mixed with Pike, Pike mixed with walleyes, Musky's mixed with walleyes as well. Don't have chain pickerel where I fish. Mostly Conesus, occasionally Chautauqua and even less occasionally northern Canada. The biggest Musky I ever saw was 50" and was caught on a walleye jig while catching eyes in > 40' of water in Chautauqua.
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Any suggestions for trolling in Hemlock?
NPike replied to SwedishFish's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I didn't realize you're trolling with an electric motor and a quite small boat. This could be dangerous. I had a narrow 12' boat with a 4 horse early on and got swamped by a large wave. It filled the boat with water and ruined the day to say the least (nearly capsized us). Hemlock is not a large lake but it can wipe up a bit when a north or south wind starts blowing. You might consider a 14' boat? Or at least a wide reasonably - deep 12' boat. Just thinking about safety? As for the trout the key is to locate the thermocline which varies greatly depending on the time of the year. It can range from 25' to as deep as 40+' by late summer. Missing it by 3 to 5 feet will mean missing the fish. You can try fishing below the thermocline and get some Lakers as well, but no trout greater than 5' above it as a rule. I say this after having caught many between 5 to 10 pounds. I just lost interest in trolling. -
Any suggestions for trolling in Hemlock?
NPike replied to SwedishFish's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I used to troll Hemlock a lot. I used Sutton spoons and Rapala taildancers. I fished them from manual downriggers using mono all the way. Never, had a problem with line 12#. I would fish one line at the thermocline and one line just below the thermocline by 3 to 5 feet. I tended to fish the western side more but often, but also fished open water. I used a temperature gauge to locate the thermocline, which is much more exact than trying to find it on a fish finder. The key is to locate that band of water where the water rapidly goes from warm to cold. Of course this is not a concern this time of year the fish could be anywhere even as shallow as 5 to 10 feet deep. I tended to troll at a moderate speed never measured the speed but it wasn't fast. Caught some L_Trout and Rainbows up to 10 pounds, however these were the exception. Lost a big trout >> 36' one time don't know what it would have weighted, but I'd guess an easy 20. Caught quite a few form 1 to 5 pounds as well as the occasional SM_Bass and even a pickerel -
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Hi, Never talked with fellow musky fisherman while fishing Chautauqua before. Only fish it a couple weekends a year and seemed to do alright with the triple-D jerkbait at 9" in perch color and the Savage Swim and jerk at 7 1/2 " swimbait also in a perch color. I'm convinced it's perch color helps since the lakes has countless yellow perch. Have any of you had also luck with these baits and the perch color? I usually water that's between 6' to 15' deep. Like to hear your experiences if similar for those who cast. Cheers and tight lines
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Changes to some NY Fishing Regulations (Pike)
NPike replied to Ronix 51's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Pike have a firm white meat when fresh they are very mild in flavor and great for eating. Much better than L_Trout or Bass "in my humble opinion". The trouble is the bones. I clean them just as I would a walleye and just keep the occasional fish between 5 to 10 pounds. If smaller the bones are to much of a hassle and if bigger I don't what to rob the gene pool. In Conesus we get quite a few pike between 5 to 15 pounds. Not to many over the 15 pound mark. The trouble is that many people (it seems even more so in the winter) are out to keep their limit on the days when they are biting. They have the old school mentality and fish with live bait which often hooks the fish deeply preventing a safe release. I'm sure the fishery which is a good pike habitat could be even better if folks weren't so greedy and foolish. -
Changes to some NY Fishing Regulations (Pike)
NPike replied to Ronix 51's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
It's in the mind set. Many people learned to fish years ago and view fish only as food. Unfortunately many of them will never change their outlook. They are diehard meat fisherman. I've known a few. I fished with one man who got frustrated because he could caught massive pike that over the slot limit in Canada. At that time in that region of Canada one couldn’t keep fish over or under the slot limit. So 40 inch plus pike had to go back in and believe it or not he wanted to catch smaller pike so he could keep them.