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Gator the Lamprey Slayer

I'm mildly excited about this project On the doorstep of retirement , I plan on stream fishing more . This great fishery we have hopefully will get better and even more diverse than it already is .

Yeah , I understand all this . Sounds like we have our volunteer scientist to head the NYS publis lamprey abatement program . I'll drag pipes

You know Im really at my limit about this stream thing and anglers taking everything they catch . I've done about 8 trips to steelhead streams this year and have done very well . I've seen other guys catch fish also . In all the trips and fish I've caught and seen others catch , not one person I have seen put a fish on a stringer .

Which explains all the corrmerats I'm seeing this morning

This post is very timely I was at Sandy at my cottage yesterday to take a few cast and looked down at the launch and saw the stocking truck finishing up and pull away . About 20 min later I saw a bunch of schools of what looked to be Atlantic's 4 to 5 " swimming by . None hit my jigs . Also saw the shocking boat doing the creek twice last fall . Asked the guys what they were doing . They said they were looking for Atlantic's . They got very few .

So theoretically 2 guys could go on an 8 hr charter and limit out with small salmon in 1 1/2 on a great day and the capt says we're done and head back to port and charge for an 8 hr charter ? Does this actually happen ?

So how does this work ? Say 2 guys pay for an all day charter and limit out in 2 hrs , even if they are C&R and you count released fish towards their limit . Do you as a captain pull lines and head back to port and you are done for the day after 2 hrs ? Do they pay the full day fee or do you refund them and charge them half or quarter day?

I have a depth raider 2 seasons now. I had issues losing signal , going through batteries . Put a noise filter on my kicker I bought from Kell Industries , who makes the Depth Raider , and it has worked flawlessly since . How you set up the cable and crimps is important

Catch and release....into hot oil

I'm interested in the wading jacket

I'm talking all NYS employees Am I to believe in the DEC and SUNY system that there isn't a qualified scientist that could research and master this ? And then possibly train a few others to do this . If not ,it's a pretty sad state of affairs . I'm sure the Lampricide supplier has specs that need to be followed . Or quite possibly they may want their own techs to do the treatments .

Sorry Brian , I ain't buying it We need people in leadership positions that are problem solvers . This is a problem , so fix it . The state has more employees per resident than any state in the country. Figure it out . It doesn't have to be hatchery people . Be creative . Adapt , overcome .

I guess it's a matter of priorities. And how you allocate your manpower . Seems this Lamprey thing is pretty important . So a team of a few guys to do it shouldn't be a problem . It took a few days to do Sandy when I saw it a few years back . In a months time , all the streams that need it should be done . Government efficiently can no one longer be an oxymoron.

There are 4 boats in my neighborhood that fish salmon . I think I'm the only one that keeps a fish once in a while . I generally keep a smaller Steelhead or coho to eat and the kings that I know won't make it . I think most guys out there are generally C&R . I also think most stream guys are also . The state sets the limits. If a guy wants to keep his limit , I see nothing wrong with that . If you go on a charter once a year , and you like fish , why not take your limit ? If guys are going to C&R , the fish need to get back I the water ASAP. Not held out for a pic for 5 min then thrown overboard or released back into the stream . But unfortunately ,mortality is part of the game . Some of the methods used , long coppers , etc . , deep taken Lakers , are contradictory to C&R .

The answer to this problem is so blatantly obvious , it's a bit ridiculous that it's really even a problem . Train currently employed DEC techs to do this so we don't have to worry about Canada , tariffs , etc . That way the money spent stays in this state and country . We don't pay Canadians for work that employees already in the payroll should be able to do . But the way things seem to work , I suppose this might be to much to ask. But a man can dream .

With this info , all the more reason to grab the bull by the horns and make a concerted effort to have this done by NYS DEC .

I fish an ADK lake quite a bit . One day I was launching and saw 3 canoes with green ADK shirts at the launch . I asked , " are you guys having a class ? " They said no we found an invasive species . Next year I came back and all the weed beds I fished were gone along with the big pike . Found out from one of the stewards they did in fact poison the lake . Why would we hire people when we already have people on the payroll that should be able to do this ?