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So theoretically 2 guys could go on an 8 hr charter and limit out with small salmon in 1 1/2 on a great day and the capt says we're done and head back to port and charge for an 8 hr charter ? Does this actually happen ?

So how does this work ? Say 2 guys pay for an all day charter and limit out in 2 hrs , even if they are C&R and you count released fish towards their limit . Do you as a captain pull lines and head back to port and you are done for the day after 2 hrs ? Do they pay the full day fee or do you refund them and charge them half or quarter day?

I have a depth raider 2 seasons now. I had issues losing signal , going through batteries . Put a noise filter on my kicker I bought from Kell Industries , who makes the Depth Raider , and it has worked flawlessly since . How you set up the cable and crimps is important

Catch and release....into hot oil

I'm interested in the wading jacket

I'm talking all NYS employees Am I to believe in the DEC and SUNY system that there isn't a qualified scientist that could research and master this ? And then possibly train a few others to do this . If not ,it's a pretty sad state of affairs . I'm sure the Lampricide supplier has specs that need to be followed . Or quite possibly they may want their own techs to do the treatments .

Sorry Brian , I ain't buying it We need people in leadership positions that are problem solvers . This is a problem , so fix it . The state has more employees per resident than any state in the country. Figure it out . It doesn't have to be hatchery people . Be creative . Adapt , overcome .

I guess it's a matter of priorities. And how you allocate your manpower . Seems this Lamprey thing is pretty important . So a team of a few guys to do it shouldn't be a problem . It took a few days to do Sandy when I saw it a few years back . In a months time , all the streams that need it should be done . Government efficiently can no one longer be an oxymoron.

There are 4 boats in my neighborhood that fish salmon . I think I'm the only one that keeps a fish once in a while . I generally keep a smaller Steelhead or coho to eat and the kings that I know won't make it . I think most guys out there are generally C&R . I also think most stream guys are also . The state sets the limits. If a guy wants to keep his limit , I see nothing wrong with that . If you go on a charter once a year , and you like fish , why not take your limit ? If guys are going to C&R , the fish need to get back I the water ASAP. Not held out for a pic for 5 min then thrown overboard or released back into the stream . But unfortunately ,mortality is part of the game . Some of the methods used , long coppers , etc . , deep taken Lakers , are contradictory to C&R .

The answer to this problem is so blatantly obvious , it's a bit ridiculous that it's really even a problem . Train currently employed DEC techs to do this so we don't have to worry about Canada , tariffs , etc . That way the money spent stays in this state and country . We don't pay Canadians for work that employees already in the payroll should be able to do . But the way things seem to work , I suppose this might be to much to ask. But a man can dream .

With this info , all the more reason to grab the bull by the horns and make a concerted effort to have this done by NYS DEC .

I fish an ADK lake quite a bit . One day I was launching and saw 3 canoes with green ADK shirts at the launch . I asked , " are you guys having a class ? " They said no we found an invasive species . Next year I came back and all the weed beds I fished were gone along with the big pike . Found out from one of the stewards they did in fact poison the lake . Why would we hire people when we already have people on the payroll that should be able to do this ?

If the Feds are not funding this and it looks like they are kicking more and more to the states , a concerted effort to take this Lamprey abatement stuff over and do it in house should happen. We probably have most or all of the equipment to do it . The state is doing Eurasian Millfoil abatement in ADK lakes , so it's not like the state doesn't have tecks that have some experience in this . The state has people on the payroll with the knowledge , most likely and the equipment to do this , so the actual cost would be the Lampricide itself and fuel to get the trucks and testing stuff to the stream locations . This should be a significant savings from subbing this out to a Canadian firm . And the state controls the destiny of its resource.

The fact is , if the 60 k guy said , you know what , I going to a state that is less tax crazy to build my house . So what happens then ? All the money spent to build the house , lumber , engineers and architects, designers ,tradesman , maintenance after the build etc are lost to another state . And maybe most importantly the area loses a premier surgeon. There are a lot that have left this state to avoid taxes they don't have to pay in other states , that coincidentally, are thriving . Tom Gallisano for one of many . And after that money leaves , it leaves the rest of us to pay for everything else . Like essential services , fish stocking , boat launch etc etc . . And maybe Lamprey abatement . I suppose you either get that or you don't . I have been saying for years this sort of thing affects you fishing . I do not consider this a political issue.

Is that really the point ?

I sure could use this . Amazing this came up . I'll take it if it's available . Where are you .

Heard yesterday that NY state has more public employees per resident than any other state . Imagine that . That being said , so we don't have anyone in the SUNY system that is capable of safely running the Lamprey program . I know the Brocport students go out in the lake to monitor that so maybe roll that into the curriculum . Just a thought . I got those tax stats from 60 minutes a while back I think . But they kind of make sense . You did see the 60 k property tax bill ?