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evening salmon and trout
HB2 replied to fishing fireman's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
When sun comes up I do better on my dipseys and slide divers. -
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We had one heck of a current a few weeks back . The water is semi low so it should have blasted the end out. It has kind of filled in since the dredging .
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I see guys launching there all winter when there is no ice
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Aw , come on Yankee , it's all part of the fun . We're just discussing what lengths some guys will go to catch an animal with a brain the size of a pea. And it's all kind of related . And as a republican , I can't wait for more pollution . LO rebounding ? It's hanging on by a thread some years . It's a shadow of what it was . Kudos to the fisheries guys . And back in the day when I ran 6 rods on 4 riggers we had 6 fish on at once. As I remember , 2 we're good kings . But there were 4 guys on board . I'm to the point that I don't know how to respond to some of this .
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These ecosystems are fragile . Just look at what a zebra mussle or a goby did to the great lakes . It takes a lot of years to grow a legal size bass . And they aren't stocked . Pluck to many out of a small bass lake and it could be decades to recover . As sportsman , we should be stewards of the resources and forward thinking . But from the response on here from some , it's not about that . Which I guess is why we need big brother .
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I had a 5.0 OMC cobra 305 Chevy . 5.7 is 350. . It ran great when it did but it had it's issues . I change my distributor from points to electronic for 1 k . Had other issues also .Shift cable ( pull engine to fix ) carb rebuild etc . I/O outdrives are high maintenance and expensive to fix. Also I put axlot of hrs in it . Rebuilt the motor 3.5 k , rebuilt the lower unit 4 k . A 91is an old boat . Could be hull / stringer issues which are crazy expensive to fix . That's not a fishing boat IMO .
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If you all recall , snagging of both salmon AND TROUT we're both legal .And in my younger days ,I did it not knowing any better because we were told they did not bite and everyone else was doing it . I remember there was a ton of pushback about banning it , especially from bait shops because of the lack of revenue they might incure . And back in the horse and buggy days , trot lines , spearing , gill nets were also legal . But hey , fish the way you want . You really cant trust , or at least I can't , Bass masters or MLF . Any organization that would have or condone fishing Tournaments during spawning season is suspect . I'm sorry to say this but this is a big issue . It changes fishing and not for the better . This just gives the environmentalist Anti hunting fishing people all the ammo the need . And I also must admit , I would side with them on this . I can't turn my head in this . Seemingly this is all done in the name of winning a fishing tournament . Win at all costs , the ends justify the means . I really have no respect for that . What everyone else does affects the rest of us . Hey Gambler , its funny you posted the pic of the 2 guys with the Wii visors . I was thinking that was next . And then you posted that .
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Sorry guys , it's BS You can justify it in your mind any way you want . It just ain't right . Sorry if your neck gets sore staring at a live scope when you can actually in real time place your bait in front of the fish and watch them hit it . A long time ago I asked a question to some out there . It was " if they made some sort of electronic device that every time you were around a fish it would automatically hit your lure , would you buy it ? " Sadly , there are some that would rush right out and buy it . And we would be in Hell. And then post pics on here and be proud of themselves . Where will this end , probably not in a good place. I'm glad I'm old , I see the thing I love to do more than anything turned into a joke .
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So I see a u tube video of a bass guy with forward Facing Sonar and live scope . He has a pair of glasses that the screen of his live scope is projected on his glasses so he doesn't have to even look at his screen . Is this the future of fishing ? And if it is , what's up with that ? Is there any sport to that ? Where is the the fair chase? The problem as I see it are there are going to be some that are good with it and others that want to keep up that will accept it . And please don't give me the horse and buggy crap .
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I made a gaff for ice fishing a long time ago I cut the head off a steel shaft golf club to about 3 ft . Then I took a 6/0 treble and pushedit up the shaft. Carefully drilled a hole thru the shaft and eye. Put a small screw and nut to secure. Reach down and hook him just under the bone in his jaw . No harm to the fish . Saw a u tube video of a tourney bass guy with live scope . Basically playing a video game . Pretty sad .
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HB2 replied to REELDRAG2's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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When there was debate about going to 3 rods I predicted at some point it will not be enough and it would be proposed to be 4 or now more . I saw a decked out bass boat in the creek with 10 rods killer trolling motor , power poles and 4 12" screens , 2 bow and 2 helm . As I was rowing my 12 ft row boat with an anchor from my kids weight set on a 15 ft rope and a few rods , I asked myself , shaking my head smiling ,is this what you need to catch a 18 " bass ? One of you guys will get electric reels for your 600 ft copper and a lot of you will just have to get them . When the rod goes off , leave it in the holder and push a button to bring it in . All while holding your phone on Facebook My age is a detriment. I saw what it started and where it is now . And fear where it's going .
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There is no " evidence " but it sure is happening . Forward Facing Sonar has been a game changer . And live screen also . The fish now really have nowhere to hide . When the salmon enter the tribs by me I see guys with side scan Cruise the creek looking for fish . It takes the mystic out of the sport to me . . The state has set a trib one rod limit. So without any limits a guy can have 10 rods out? What about other guys that want to fish with limited shore space. ? Age brings wisdom . I use to scoff at that . My real reason comes down to ethics . We are sport fisherman , not commercial fisherman . What's next for hunting , Camara drones to scan the woods to find game ? So now we don't have to do the legwork ? All these electronics take the expertise out of the sport ,and it is a sport . Some forget that . And yes I have electronics and will soon come and buy one from you . Only because mine stopped working. It antiquated but it did the job . The electronics of today are expedientially better than when I started . And amazingly before , I caught a lot of fish . And to me it's not about money .
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Might be my 1st time trolling browns, hoping for a couple tips
HB2 replied to moonfish's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Sandy might be a better first time . If you have boards great . If just long lines then lay your rod holders flat as you can . Run those back 150 ft or so . Try to stay in or on the edge of the stained creek water and closer to shore . Shallow stick baits . -
It use to be political difference between party were about policy . High taxes , lower taxes and the like . But both parties put America first . It's not like that now . The Supreme court rules and Maxine says the hell with the Supreme court . The court says no student loan forgiveness and Biden does it anyway . His job is to protect us from foreign invasion and look at the border . The constitution means nothing to them . They want it gone . Sorry , but those the condone and side with that , I don't want to fish with or be around .
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The guy is kicking butt in the polls . They can't get him on an IRS audit or something like that ( God knows they tried ) so they will ruin him financially with a bogus charge . Very American of the left . And the best , or worst part is there are people ,some on here , who are good with it because they hate him .
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I've gone 15 rounds before about this. To me it comes down to why are you fishing ? For most it's mostly C+R . It supposed to be sport fishing . Some days you get them ,some you don't . I see pier guys with 3 rods stretch out for perch or whatever . So now 4 , or 10 . It's one in the LO tribs past the first bridge . I can't imagine it being more . Southern bass lake are getting ruined with the electronic and boat and bait advancement . I don't want that here. There should be some honor in the way we pursue the fish .
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It's up to the loan appraiser to decide what the fair market value is of the property .Not the bowerer or the Gov. When they issue the loan THEY become the primary lien holder so in case of default , they can for close ,sell and get their money back. That has nothing to do with tax assessment . And where did the loan money go? It got used to put up another building the gov can tax the crap out of . What missing money ? There is no victim here .Only winners and as NYS residents we are some of those . And a portion of that money probably goes to our fishing program . Straight Shooters ? Are you kidding me? That's a joke right ? If you voted Joe , all the woes we are experiencing as a country are your fault . NATO isn't going anywhere. But Trump made the county's sitting on their wallet pay up . That's a good thing and will make NATO stronger .
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Many NYC business leaders are concerned they are next because what he got convicted of is common business practice . Kathy said not to worry , it's just Trump . So she just admitted it is a vendetta against only him. Election interference . That should concern any American . I don't know how anyone can honestly say its better now than when he was president . Polls show Americans are waking up . The problem is your political choices can affect you fishing or hunting . Your freedoms allow you to be able to go . There are proposed laws to ban hunting tournaments . Fishing could be next . And please don't tell me it couldn't happen . I would never have thought I would see what I'm seeing now .