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So I have to ask , not to be a dick, but if you say that has been a killer spoon for you , and they are impossible to find , why would anyone give one up?

We did about the same time frame and it was the same for us . And we had pretty much the same results . Spoon bite also . Although we had a few shakers and Lakers on the flasher set up . Our biggest was 20# and lost another ripper on the dipsey .

I have a Control King that came with the boat . Works great .

I fish in my row boat a lot just before dark quite a bit . There are some " Shady " characters there .

Did my smaller boat as Homemade

Atlantic's run the river to spawn from Oct to Dec + How cool would it be for trib guys to have a healthy population of them to pursue ? Would make our great trib fishery even greater .

You can get the cheapest 30 or 40 they make . It's bigger diameter and is better flea wise IMO . Did it for years . Never had an issue with it .

I figured that east wind would change things . Question What more could anyone ask of a fishery ? Good job to the folks who make all this happen .

My son and I got out early both days. Fished 75 to 130 most of the time . Fri we landed probably 20 fish . A mixed bag of everything . We got I think 3 good kings up to 20# . About 6 real nice steelheads up to 11# maybe . Temp was down like 80 ft . Sat morning it was howling so bad I didn't even get in the rowboat to fish the creek and that never happens . East wind Sat brought temp up . Was 42 deg down 50 . We ended up having consistent action all day . Riggers we're hot till 830 or so . 40 to 55 down took 2 good kings . Then my slide diver took over the show . 3 good kings netted and lost a few more .

This state spends money it doesn't have all the time on projects . Maintanence , that's another issue . So I could see a new job creating hatchery project . Why not ? A great opportunity for ribbon cutting photo oops . The ecosystem has changed . There are less bass but man are they bigger. A lot of big perch also if you know how to catch them . I also get a lot of Northerners . My arms were tired yesterday from all the fish I reeled in yesterday. Is the fishing not good enough out there ? So why not develop this Atlantic project . Could be a great thing for stream anglers . They should have some say in this whole thing also . I spend a fair amount of time on the tribs with my fly rod . It's extremely challenging . I like that. My guess if the Altlantics take hold , guys will come from near and far to chase them . And that " noise " comment is just insulting .

The entire NYS northern shoreline has ecosystems that support pretty much any freshwater fish that swims. How lucky are we to have that ? You can fish bass ,pike , musky walleye , panfish , trout or salmon . More importantly you can fish fish for those species in a way you like to . For trout / salmon , some guys like to troll . Others passion is the trib pin or fly fishing thing . I like to do it all ( but I can't bring myself to pick up a center pin ) . And I can tell you from my perspective , if I'm targeting fall browns and rainbows , stream kings can be a nuisance. Sounds to me like there is a fear by some that kings will be put on the back burner . I don't see that happening . The king fishing is lights out this year . I personally would love to see a good Atlantic program . It's always fun to catch one and why shouldn't the trib guys have what they want also ? They buy license and pay their tax dollars for the stocking program also. As far as hatchery space . I said it before and now again . It's time for a new state of the art hatchery in this state . It should be priority 1 of the members of this board .

The DEC cut the domestic rainbow program ( which was very successful for south shore tribe guys ) for more rearing space for brown trout . Seems to me that was done for the east end lake anglers who don't get the kings till later in the year .

I'm not saying yea or nay on the program but I think the amount of tributary anglers state wide and their economic impact is grossly underestimated by some .

Well , they use to treat Sandy . The last time I saw the trucks upstream was about 12 years ago I think . Maybe longer . None of the fish I boated has lamprey marks