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Have,used both braid and wire Now I use just braid . I catch just as,much and it is more forgiving . I use 65# power,pro but some guys use 80 or 100 .
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The decision to manage the kings for the lake and steelhead for the tribs , while controversial , was probably the best approach . But the reality of the situation is both are available to both fisheries and stakeholder to use his term depend on that both for fun and more importantly economics,. I have heard from those who worked on the Sandy pens that the Sandy fish exceeded in vitality all the south shore pen projects every year . So if that in fact is the case and the kings are managed for the lake , ALL the penned reared fish should be raised at Sandy . If you want the best results. But that ain't gunna happen . This guy was just regurgitating what the higher ups are saying . And believe me I applaud the results of how,good this fishery is . But sometimes , I wonder .
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So I went out in my row boat last evening for some bass action about 6 at Sandy . The creek survey boat was sitting there . I joking said to the guys that there aren't any boats out there so what are you guys doing ? He replied , " we go where they send us " . I then ask him why we don't get any pen kings anymore . He gives me a long winded answer that they look at the science , baitfish , etc to determine the amount of kings stocked so as not to crash the baitfish . And that stakeholders determine it was,best for the fishery to concentrate the pen efforts to the ports that now get them. I then asked who are the stakeholders . He replied all of us . This went on for about 20 min mind you and this is the readers digest version . I then said well I guess its " F" us . And because we don't have the business on this creek to make a stink . He said oh no that not how it is. We want the returning fish to go to the creeks with the most pressure . I strongly asked him if he came down here under the bridge salmon time . And if he ever checked all the bridges for the out of state plates all the way up to Holley ? I then said , I'm all good with the stocking numbers if thats what you guys determine it needs to be for the bait biomass but that has nothing to do with Sandy being cut out of the pen efforts. And that it was purely for economic reasons . He strongly defined that . I think he got sick of me questioning his reasoning so he,gave me his bosses number and said to call him . To which I replied I expect more of the same
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Whaler stated tributary regs . For Sandy it is south of the parkway bridge. I believe they start Aug 15 but I'm not sure But it seem to matter less and less to people because they fish there after dark more and more . I reported to DEC last year . They got back to me about a week later and thanked me for my concern . Don't know what happened I was in my row boat this spring under the bridge and CEO called me over and checked my license . I told him of the antics down there at night salmon time . He told me he does not like to go down there at night alone because he has arrested some he checked that had warrants down there and it can become dangerous for him down there . Can't say I blame him. I thought of getting a paint ball gun and launching rounds at the offenders because I can see them from my Sun room and it kind of kisses me off .
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My question is why everyone on the left is so strongly against him . And please don't tell me how much they care about the victims , because They surely did not in the past .something is going on . Definitely political assassination . Biden did kind of the same thing And he is the media darling . Meet the new boss , same as the old boss . Or maybe worse I guarantee that the next nomination running will be more progressive . And in this part of the state we a just along for the ride . So sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't .
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What Silver Fox said.
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Sandy Creek Shootout -Escape
HB2 replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Creek Shootout -Escape
HB2 replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Creek Shootout -Escape
HB2 replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Creek Shootout -Escape
HB2 replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Sandy Creek Shootout -Escape
HB2 replied to GAMBLER's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Bass boats on the River
HB2 replied to Prof T's topic in St. Lawrence River Fishing Reports - 1000 Islands Fishing
I fish all species of fish in Lake ontario and NY state . And fishing in general for bass and Salmon trolling tech wise has gotten crazy . It gets better , and More intrusive each year . Bigger faster boats with crazy better electronics , that see,everything and position you perfectly . And it's easy to get caught up in that . I considered the tourney life but did not and am glad . I fish because I love to . I have a rag tag 16 ft Barely sea worth boat I absolutely love . Nothing beats being out first light , quiet, seeing wildlife , no pressure . That might be hard for some to understand . When it becomes all about winning and competition , it would change it for me . Some of these guys I see I wonder ... It seems they like the idea of being a pro fisherman with all the glitz and fame more than they like fishing . -
I have caught fish on it all different times . But I usually fish flashers below 50 ft . I find glow works well sometimes mid day high Sun for some reason .
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One of my all time favorites is a white crush glow spin dr with a T 41 ultra glow Atomic fly .
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I absolutely love my J plugs . . Small boat`n after Labor day I use them for staggers almost exclusively . And you have some good ones in that box . Size 3 and 4 . Glow green fluorescent , and pearl white first light . Silver bullet when Sun comes up . 35 to 75 leads off riggers . Run ball 10 ft off bottom .
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My favorite setup this time of year is a flasher on 1 rigger set back 20 ft set at 50 deg temp . Other rigger one spoon set 10 ft below the flasher and one spoon stacked 10 ft above the flasher 25 ft leads . And one or 2 dipsey . A lot of times I run 4 flashers .
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Use 2 of the same weights if you can I used 10# fish shaped for years .. I use cannonballs also . Hopefully yours are 10 # at least I seldom run leads of less that 20 ft , more like 25 for both spoons and flashers . Run leads back the same and keep the weights at least 10 ft apart vertically to avoid tangles At first , run 1 lure each rigger and 1 dipsey if you have one till you get the feel of things . I never run more than 5 rods . Better to run a few rods right than a bunch wrong Watch your depth finder for fish / bait . Do a lot of turning so your lure will be running the right speed at least some of the time if you don't have Down speed temp . Note direction of troll on hit to repeat it
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Those buoys are there to mark the channel . RED ON RIGHT WHEN RETURNING FROM SEA, RED ON RIGHT WHEN GOING UPSTREAM STAY BETWEEN THE RED AND GREEN Fishing bass I have seen numerous boats over the years , 2 this morning , go outside the buoys and have waved some off . Could be very expensive for you , especially this year .
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