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Frustrated - Braddocks
HB2 replied to adesalvo's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I fished Sandy and we had a hard time trolling west and getting our down speed to where we like it . East we had to speed up . All I can tell you is turn And zig zag a lot if you don't have down speed and your lure will be going the right speed some of the time And note direction of troll on release Our dipseys were best today . -
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Derby fishing by yourself
HB2 replied to [email protected]'s topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
For supposedly not being a good idea to fish alone , I sure see a lot of guys , including myself doing it . I don't see 2 guys being really any safer than 1 . Some guys My wife or children we bring are not going to be a whole lot of help in an emergency . As far,as a witness , they give lie detectors if needed . I sure wish they would allow this . I would be out there all the time . Would sell my boat , buy like a 19 ft center console T top and set it up to the max . Still going to try and run a one man out of Sandy this fall . Low key cheap , see how it goes . -
This time of year to start I put out 3 flasher set ups and 1 spoon . I run a 2 rigger 2 dipsy set up and target kings . You will know pretty quick if you are getting marks weather they want the flashers or not . After about an hr or so if I don't get hit or they just hit the spoon I take one flasher of a rigger and stack 2 spoons 20 ft apart and set them 10 ft above and 10 ft below the other rigger with the flasher . I put my flasher on my probe rigger and keep it at 48 to 50 deg . But I always leave at least 1 flasher out somewhere. This has worked well for me .
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Coyote K twisted my arm to go out this morning and I reluctantly agreed . We did the Tag team again And what a morning it was . The Gary D rig behind a 11" hot spot Martha Stewart and Binwadin color ( white ) . Boat 7 majors with the biggest 25 7 And some smaller also . About 20 hits. Bite was so good I ran only 2 rods which kept us bust enough . 9o to 140 was working 70 to 85 down . Off the water by 9 2.1 was best speed with biggest taken while boat was in neutral fighting a fish and downrigger was like jigging the lure . .
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Actually we should all drive down there and create a huge traffic jam . This is not even close to over . This group is going to continue to escalate this until some one or thing tries to stop them , which IMO , is what they want . The conflict . They are using bully tactics . It is apparent to me that this group no longer wants to live by the rules of our civilized society . It ain't perfect but its the best on earth . Be prepared for election day chaos . Be strong and brave and not afraid to state your opinion .
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To much like work I want to put my line in the release , hit the button and let it go . The only reason I have to wait going down is when I use flashers and they surf back to the boAt so I let the weight down about 10 ft till the flasher goes,down , which can take a while . I have a reg Proos and a turbo Proos . I like the slower one better . A lot of problems with fast riggers the way I see it . Going both up and down . My stackers are Reomers also but I take an offshore and attach it to the stainless line hoop . Works great , been doing it for years. I like how they clamp and how they release when they hit the tip . And they were free. Also doesn't look like there is a bead between the black and the wire twist . Could make it so does not spin freely with pressure pulling up on it n
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Braddocks 7/19
HB2 replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Coyote K and I did the double team thing again today as we did yesterday . That works well for us . Found fish 110 to 170 Rigger bite mostly 80 to 105 Down We end up landing about 10 4 matures and a mix of teens and dinks ,all kings White flashers / my rig took all but 2 of the 20 or so hits we had today . THE 2 were spoons . Choppy but better than flat . My Turbo Proos has died I think . I think it's the plastic gears inside . Just like the other one Are Magnum Metalz in my future ?
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Which is why I use pinch pad releases that are hooked on to the weight. Offshore, Scotty or Cannon . The pull of the line keeps the weight from spinning on the way down . I also believe it help to keep the weight from swinging back and forth down there and tracks straighter . I use to use blacks,and that would happen occasionally so I switched. But if the black has a,bearing above , such as a metal bead , the weight can spin and the black should not . Roemers do the same thing even worse as they clamp on the line . Hasn't happened again in 20 + years .
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First light west . Started in 90 , good screen . No hit till 150 . 235 was best for us 80 to 100 down Mostly spoon bite but white hot spot flasher / Gary D rig took the biggest we landed . Wound up with 8 or so with 2 nice kings . Had a screamer that almost spooled us for 20 minutes or so that just got off . Had him to the back of the boat . Never saw it . The big one gets away .
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Actually , that is not true . There are a lot of people in this country that dont like it . Some from other countries, and have been elected, that have come here , hate us , and are trying to change our country to their way of thinking . We are the richest most powerful nation in the world , so why wouldn't they want to come here and take over . 4.5 million gun "buyers " is different from gun " owners " How many of the inner city shootings are done with legal , registered hand guns ? And many of the libs want to take your legal firearms away . With less police and no firearms , you are at the thugs mercy . And I feel it just what those libs want . Proof of that is they are letting the thuggery and lawlessness go unchecked and some have outright encouraged it . All this statue tumbling and rioting is serving message , and many have said as much , they no longer want to live by the constitution .
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It stopped being about George 3 days after it happened It's all political now and there are some they are trying to take over the country . Question Where are all the white supremacist groups and people that we hear are so prevalent in American society ? Another media hoax But when I turn on the news I do see a lot of racism Anyone that wants to call me a racist can shove that accusations . I won't be intimidated by that
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Ain't my kids out in the street burning buildings ,looting, throwing bricks , jumping on cars or fighting with the police , etc . We have all ways had a peacefull transition of power when we have presidential elections . Didn't happen this last time . I told my wife after the Russia hoax and Impeachment failure that the Dems were going to make it the biggest **** storm possible before the election . And here we are .
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White or some variation of white is my best all around color . First light best but all day after that . Maybe because I have the most confidence with it but I put other color flasher I have down and the white outperforms them . And I use glow all day with good results. The other colors catch fish also , but white seems,the best . Just got a UV white to try .
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Three days camping Fished the river in First pond and lower Saranac Mid lake humps with weeds,were the best places to be . Fished Ned rigged 3 and 4" dark colored Senco style on 1/16 oz head . Also Brown Buctail on 1/8 oz,on the deepwaterer drops . Got about 10 keepers up to 18" both largemouth and smallmouth . And a bunch of dinks and panfish. Every cast sometimes, Also hiked up St Regis mt . Surprised there were not more people camping . Also saw a,bear crossing the road near Camp Gabriel's . ,
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I find high Sun mid day after a good morning bite can be very tough I think the boat or the rigger balls can spook them . Even when temp is deep I will put my dipsey at 2.5 / 3 setting and let it back up to 300 ft My slide diver and a spoon has save my bacon many days . Silver purple seems to be best on those days for me spoon wise . And I have a blue angle flasher ( first one I bought years back ) that works on a dipsey . I have also been known to set my rigger leads back 125 ft , even if I'm fishing 90 down . This has been know to get a fish or two on a day when nothing else seems to work .
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There is a learning curve with wire line . It curls and can kink which will weaken it dramatically and that section has to be cut out . If you don't , kiss your dipsey and what you have on it goodbye . Don't ask me how I know . I i have 4 dipsey setups . I run one wire and one with 65 braid . I catch just as many on the braid as I do the wire . To start I would get a braid setup to get use to fishing with it because there some serious pressure on the rod . And Its tricky getting the right release tension and to deploy it . And yes , they can be lights out some days .
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I really don't care about the changes . To me it's kind of irrelevant . Would like to see the rainbows back but I can live with what we have now . This is the Derby that we have to fish other than getting into some of the tournaments , which I'm not going to do. I know the guy wants to make money and I don't blame him for that . I'm sure it's a lot of time and effort to put these things on . I think 200$ for a rec boat would be fair for a summer pass . Covers 4 full time guys and 40$ for hop ons which most likely would only go one time . And I'm talking last minute guys to hop on . Not register in the morning . Just hop on and go . You are on my boat , you are covered . Maybe take a pic of his licence and text it to registration before you leave the dock . Some boats might make out but some wouldn't . But who cares , he has 200$,. I watch boats go up and down the creek all the time and most have,2 or three guys . And how does this work ? I thought the counties took it over from ESLO way back when things got bad to keep it going . Do they kick in to promote this and Chillson runs it or what ?