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HB2 replied to Captsmate's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The start of the " off the mouth " king fishery . First light / just before dark best . Start close and work your way out . Look for fish on the bottom or just off an hr after first light till an hr before dark . And I Like J Plugs , an underutilized lure IMO . -
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HB2 replied to Captsmate's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Nope The fish are changing now Just cured some skein . Thought it would be tighter than it was . -
Lake flipped You want kings , go find stable water Went out to 300 and headed north Nothing for our efforts but one small salmon and 2 knock offs Hit 520 and got a,double of matures Wound up 6 fish . 5 salmon and a steelhead and about 5 more hits Dare I say , Gary D rig and spoon bite . Got 50deg 70 ft down out there Radar said storms so we headed back in and it was the smart call Was,pretty choppy 11 miles out.
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I use a 5/8 or 3/4 spade bit No flotation I tie them off on my mid ship cleat and they Run on side of my boat 2/3 to 3/4 back from my bow . I had them so they were in front of my side riggers You want them so you can grab rope easily to put in or out . And wAke from boat Will kind of push them away from side a little .
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How far back?
HB2 replied to Captsmate's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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How far back?
HB2 replied to Captsmate's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
35 to 75 + for j plugs Shallow ,farther back Deeper can be closer Mid day doldrums , run it back 125 ft Look for them mid day on bottom at 50 to 90 ft Run weights 7 to 10 ft off bottom to account for dive of plugs . I run my flashers 25 to 35 but no bites on calm seas bright day I have run them back 80 ft to get a hit . Works sometimes . -
I'm sure glad we have Tommy at Sandy .
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Oak orchard 8/5
HB2 replied to Force of one's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I figured out that my line woes were more bite offs than break offs . Some of them were ahead of the head . I think they were swallowing the whole thing . Solved that with 50# braid through head allbrighted Just ahead of the baithead ton 25 # . Never had a break off from diver to lure . I use 30 or 40 big game we for that . I'm still not a fan of Flouro . -
You need 2 Green glow j plug Silver red head j plug Your choice of #3 or # 4 And I agree One flasher / fly
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Oak orchard 8/5
HB2 replied to Force of one's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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New to trolling - what to get?
HB2 replied to Dan M's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
If you can get one manual downrigger and mount it where you can deploy and get at it safely and easily it will be a big addition . Get a few J plugs and come up to LO 3 rd week in Sept to middle of Oct for shallow kings . There are a lot of nice flat mornings you can fish . Go to the Oak and bring bass tackle if it's rough . Two rods out , are all you need . I will apologize in advance for giving you your first taste of crack . -
I have the same riggers as those,for my 16 ft aluminum . I love to troll for staggers off the creekmouths . I use 10# herbies . Fish shapped . 8# would probably be ok down to say 50 ft . Fishing starts mid Sept for them . First light bite is best . I use #3 & #4 j plugs almost exclusively . White with black dots, glow green ,or silver red head are my go to. Look circulars and,fish under them 35 to 75 back .1 Ball set 10 ft off bottom 1 set half way down . I sometimes,in shallow set my rigger just under the surface maybe 2 ft down . Check the drags,on those as they dry up .
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Back from the ADKs and got out about 430 . Fished 70 to 90 East wind pulled cold water up to 44 at 35 ft . Tried with no hits . Pulled lines and headed to 220 . North troll . Getting ready to pull lines and call it and this hit a diver at 349 ft deep and ripped out 600 ft . I'll spare you the details of what it hit as to not offend anyone .
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No , I'll say it on here . I have been fishing for these,fish since the first stocks . Back then we had to figure this fishery out for ourselves , because it was all new . You have been doing this 5 years ? Well rookie ,let me tell you what . It's,easy now . Back then , you had to know how to fish . The equipment And technology is far superior to what was . SeAsonal patterns are,all well documented . No internet back then to ask questions or find reports . You had to figure it out for yourself . Maybe you should do the same . So why do you need me to tell you what I'm getting them on And how ? I found something that is kind of new and unique that works for me and thats pretty gratifying . I made a lot of my own rods , New and innovative flies for steelhead that were killer , bass jigs that were killer , and on and on . I'm . Always trying to figure out the next best thing . I consider myself pretty good at it . I help guys,best I can And I got to here it from some guy with his panties in a wad that needs others to teach him how to fish .
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I posted exactly what to do with this last year . Kind of got some smack for it from a few on here . I'm still trying to perfect it . Will I sell some some day ? Maybe , but not in its,current state . I'm posting where and what . What else do you want ? Hard to get reports on here come Derby time cause guys are tight lipped . But I report exactly what happened , maybe to help someone out . Go Get an M/C rocket and accomplish the same thing . Put it in a glow or luminescent head and put it 54" behind an 11" white flasher of some sort 25 to 35 ft behind the ball and run it 2.1 to 2.5 . That enough info for you ?
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Afternoon run with the wife my last resort Derby partner for few hrs . A little choppy for her . Put out two flashers with my rigs . Went 2 for 5 1 king maybe 15 and a laker . Dropped what I know ( well maybe ) another king as he ripped out a bunch of line . Martha Stewart ( white ) 11" hotspot took all hits 65 down over 75 . This flasher has accounted for at least 75 hits since last mid July .
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Non meat rig I came up with last year that is about all I use lately . It's pretty simple . Have not put a fly down this year behind a flasher . It has only let me down twice this year but nothing works all the time . First light though it has been automatic . I am still trying to perfect it . But it works great .And I have confidence in it . Which I everything .
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First light Flasher down , 30 seconds later ,hit .. First 1.5 hrs , Flasher / GARY D rig was on fire. Boated 5 majors in that time . 11" Hot Spot in Martha Stewart and another I painted this week I will call Mr Jeremy Fisher both with glow heads . 45 to 65 down over 70 to 90 Heck of a current out there today .