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HB2 replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I use 17#Stren. This is what I use for my 25 ft tippet from my 30 # to the swivel. No problems at all I use 8# vanish on my Crankbait spinning rod ,no problems . I use the same 17# for the bait heads . It breaks just before or at the baithead . 4 breaks in 2 weekends and lost 3 bait heads . Never considered it might be A biteoff as I have had to ta ke the hook out of the throat of a few fish and maybe they use the head as leverage . No crimps . I don't think it can take the shock in that 4 ft section . I tie a Snell knot and yes, I take my time tying the knot . And wet it . All I know is I fish a lot , more than most And catch a lot of big fish on 4# mono . When I use Flouro as tippet material . , I have problems .be it this , fly fishing tippet. Float / jig , or braid tippet for bass. I rarely break off trolling . I am going to try the Blue label and tie some 20# mono and compare . Flouro all has the same properties , which are all documented in various tests . -
Went out first light . Set right up over bait and fish at 70. . Two Gary D rigs at 45 and 60 . 60 was first to go with about 12# king . In all for morning was 4 hits with one landed . Fish shut Down after first hr or so . Broke off yet another Flouro leader at boatside with a nice teen king. Have I mentioned that I hate that stuff ?That makes 3 times . Bassin next weekend then out comes the big boat .
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SMALL BOATO`RAMA SANDY
HB2 replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Any of you guys out there in fish land have issues with water getting into lower unit of a Minn KOTA ? I have had this happen on 2 different motors after only 2 years use each . Had marina / baitshop on Empire fix it last year and it did it AGAIN ! So that's 3 times . I fixed the first motor and I just took the second apart and fixed that one . Sounds like it's a common problem after internet research. WTF?
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And there is the problem . I use 4# maxima and it rarely breaks . Then for stealth I use 4 ,6 or 8 Flouro and I have problems .I've used a ton of different tippet stuff since 1976 and there is not even a close second to the performance of Ultrageen . But I will continue to use Flouro when I feel I need to . Float fishing a,small egg fly and swinging are 2 different animals. That 2# got me a lot of fish when nothing else worked . And it make awesome ice fishing panfish jigging line . Ultragreen spoiled me for everything else,when it comes to tippet. IMO a lot of, you guys use Flouro because you feel you have to but in most situation you don't need to .
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Just went to Hamlin town hall and spoke with the town super and building inspector All the , town does is install / remove docks . Ask him what the chances we fix at no cost to the town . He told me probably not going to happen . Looks like I get the creek to myself this summer to bass fish . Was a nice thought . Affect you guys more than me .
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Any fix need to be private money and labor The game plan : 1: Get approval 2 : set up Gofundme account for Sandy creek pen project . Run it thru there . 3 : Signs to mark drop off and turn around perimeter . And one so users can donate . 4 : Approach Lowe's to see if they can help out . There's a guy on here with connections . 5 : Cones / flags to mark turn around perimeter . 6 : Tools : Generator , chop box , drills and impacts . I have . Could use more drills drivers . 7 : set date , have material on site ,get crew , build and install .3 weeks should be enough time if this is move upon . Available for July Aug peak . If guys on here that use it kick in , and those that see sign at launch also , we should have all the money we need For selfish reasons I would rather see the ramp stay close so I can have the creek to myself for bass . But I'm willing to forgo that for my fishing brother .
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That's my brothers place on the peninsula . Very sad .
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Looks like a Yellow barrier across access,to launch.
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I landed a 25# carp with 4# maxima of my dock Fri night . Landed a 17# steelhead ,and others on 2# maxima from the genny . So I think my fishing style works for me . Many skein salmon /trout on 4,6,8 maxims . I will be playing a fish ,and the line ,fish shakes his head , and the Flouro breaks . The only reason I can see to use floor is it's invisible , or the whip of a trolling fly .That's it . And it sinks a fly . Under most cases , stealth is not an issue . Flouro sinks , it's dense, has high tensile strength,it hard . Which makes it brittle . Any compromise weakens it dramatically . I don't have these problems with mono . And , it's expensive as all get out .
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Assuming you have 2 rigger , an ok depth finder , rods and reels . You need like 10 spoons in the right colors , maybe a flasher combo . Spoons... Dream weaver and moonshine make nice spoons as others also .Get standard size, maybe 2 mags Black silver green glow combos are best and most consistent . Look on here to get guys favorites .Glow frog is good for me also . Carbon 14 . A spin Dr double crush glow white and atomic T 41 or stud fly . Load you reel with 30# big game with 25 ft tippet of 15# then a ball bearing swivel . 30# to combat fleas . Don't forget the net . Depth finder in MANUAL mode .turn up sensitivity to max or just under . Select depth range Try to stay in the in-depth line as the other boats to start . When you get out there , slow to idle , Let line out to knot of tipper and clip in release . I rarely go less than 25 ft for leads . Run one rod on each rigger . Put one down 30 , one 50 . Set drags have extra pole handy with spoon to check boatside for speed often . This is the hard part . Don't be afraid to play with the throttle . Kind of often till you get hit . Watch for bait / fish on finder . Don't concern yourself about the surface cluter top 15 ft . Adjust riggers to go thru and below bait . Drive boat with S Curves . And slow turning a lot .this way , at least some of the time your lures Will be going the right speed . On the hit , land fish and go back thru same spot . Note direction of troll on strike. If you have a hand held GPS , SOG is at least some help. This should get you started . Don't over complicate this . KISS. You can always add a dipsy or stack lines .
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To lubricate .... spit I have used 10# Seagaur blue for fly fishing tipper and skein leader . Had it break in the middle where their are no knots . It rarely breaks at the knot . Flour has no stretch , which is good for long lines , but bad for leader . Not even close to as durable as Maxima ultragreen for that . A flasher fly leader or meat rig takes a lot of abuse . 50# should never break . But I have had it happen more than once . I'm lazy , I don't want to retie every time I go out . As far as invisibility , that's not an issue most of the time . Maxima is pretty colorless. For me , it's a confidence thing as to why I use it . If I'm not getting hits , I wonder if that's the reason . Brands I've used Rio Cabalas Orvis mirage , junk Climax Vanish , junk Stren Seagaur , not bad Drennen , best so far
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I hate it because it is brittle and breaks for no reason ,sometimes in the middle of the linewhere there are no knots . Takes no abuse whatsoever . Broken a fair amount of flasher fly 50# leaders . That should never break . Have used a lot of brands and they all seem to do the same thing . I like the Drennen for fly fishing / trib tipper but it is,overtested. Has good qualities as it sinks and drags fly down when fly fishing . Or it is invisible under water.
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Was out at dawn to an east chop almost at my roughness limit , but I ventured out . Wind shifted from the south just after dawn and fish started to hit 70 to 110 , 45 to 70 down I had 4 hits total and another good king falls pray to the Gary D rig . It has become my go to . Ken Frearson is the only other guy on the lake that has one ,but can't locate it on his boat . Landed 2 of the 4 . Had another good king to boatside and the leader broke , which is why I hate fluorocarbon . Fished till 8 and pulled lines
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The gov says this is going to be the new normal , like I figured . So IMO , this needs to be addressed so we can use the resources this state offers and we pay taxes for . And many have built their livelihoods around . The law of unintended consequences will be that angler hrs will be down and this may influence future funding . If it were not for the fishing I would be out of here.
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$700 with of materials and a 4 man crew it would be done right in 4 hrs max .