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About as dumbass of a statement that could be made I don't know how many times Lakers have saved the day for me . They are a big part of the fishery . Also , a lot of trib guys could say a lot Funny how things work out

I read the report like 3 times . Sounds to me they did a pretty comprehensive study to come to their conclusions . Now this is only one study , but if it is not completely accurate , it's more right than wrong IMO. The funny thing is I kind of already knew that hauling a fish up from 100 ft down through water warmer than their key temp was not really good for them . Toss in the longer lines now all the rage which probably adds to the problem . I guess it's up to us as fisherman to decide how we want to deal with this . The answer is maybe more salmon, steelhead , Atlantic's ,and Brown stocks .

Not good news . But I am not surprised .

I feel your pain ,bro 3 herniated discs and stenosis that flares up every so often . On my back for 6 weeks a,few summers ago . In pain for 2 months straight Nov Dec . Came close to surgery but healed back up . Went to a great chiropractor Jan . Fixed me up . Stay positive and don't over medicated . Watch your diet . Take the refined sugar out of your diet as it in flames your joints and loose the flab as that will help dramatically. The Dash diet . But it really is a lifestyle change . I lost 20# and feel way better . Good luck

For what it cost , everything should work . There are times ,especially spring / shallow that you don't need to deploy the probe .

I have kept my boat at Johnson's creek , the oak , Bald Eagle and currently Sandy . If I had my druthers , I'd rather be at the Oak . I usually fish west of port to west of Green Harbor . Not only is the fishing good as it is at all ports mentioned that time of year , there are amenities . Like tackle shops , restaurants , lodging and gas . Sandy has no gas , lodging or tackle shops .

Oak , Bald Eagle , or Sandy . Very consistent fishing for Kings that time of year . Best area on the lake . But you may have to go out deep to find them .

Tommy will do it .

Did you do the whole distributor or just the points I had two sets of point break while out there last year . NEVER had that happen in the 30 years of owning the boat .

Thinking about converting my 305 Chevy from points to electronic . Any thoughts pro or con ?

Kuhmbaya my , Lord Kuhmbaya Someone's striping eggs Lord , Kuhmbaya Someone's keeping to many fish Lord , Kuhmbaya Someone's using to light a line Lord , Kuhmbaya Someone's a snagging bastard Lord, Kuhmbaya ........ Could not resist I hate the law breakers as much as you guys but love the fishery . Let's concentrate on that .

Sofia collision did mine on Palmer st in Rochester .

Just buy the damn thing and get it over with . Should I ? Shouldn't I ? When you go out and don't hook up and others are , the doubt will be in your mind at this point and you will regret it .

More Brown's are the answer . Hearty , they eat what is in front of them , they stay close to shore under 150 ft for small boat guys , fun off the piers this time of year , and they can get big . And guys like to catch them ,lake and stream .

Excellent.

See Gambler , it's getting better .

I was talking to a guy I was working with and see once in a while this fall . Told me he and his younger daughter had landed a few salmon out of the local stream and showed me a picture . I asked him what he caught it on ( I pretty much knew ) he said " we snagged them , those fish don't bite once they get in the stream " . I told him I had been doing well the last few years on skein . He did not believe me and told me I was full of it . I kept on him about it , showed pics and explained exactly what I do . Told him I would take him sometime also . I think I may have convinced him but I don't know . The DEC said they were aware of the bad trib stuff and were going to address it by" education " . Now ,I don't know what that means,but in the above case , maybe they have a point . I think the mindset needs to change . But there are those that just like to break the law . That's where the enforcement comes in . Then , swing the hammer hard .

The big Marco pass with an outgoing tide , look for the diving sea gulls . If you find them action is non stop . Saw a bunch of tarpon once also . Did not hook up there on one but lost one Somewhere else. Ditto on the back water . Like fishing bass 7 ft med action spin , 15 # braid 20 # flouro 1/4 to 1/ 2 jigs with shrimp.. Fun !

Yes , I know exactly what you mean about guys pressuring the DEC to change regs for their own benefit . I've lived that and took a lot of crap for it . I look at it from all parties viewpoint , not just the captain's . There are more people economically tied to this fishery besides them . Love the fact that DEC now has formed focus groups from both trib and lake and that a " State of the Salmon river " meeting will be had . An equal seat at the table so to speak . A long time coming IMO. Didn't some guy on here say it might be nice to reach out to the trib guys ? Thought I read that on here . This site use to have a vibrant trib section . Rarely a post anymore . Maybe because when someone does , they get jumped on for naming a trib or to light a tippet, or using eggs ,or the snagging card gets played ,and on and on . So why would they show up .

Is catching a fish and keeping it for the eggs illegal ? The way I see it , when I catch a fish and it is of the legal size , it is mine to do with as I please . Now discarding it steam side is another story. If I want to bring it home and feed my cat , it my business. All of us that fish the tribs are well aware of what can go on down there . I personally have yelled at guys more than once for bad behavior . We don't condone it , but what the hell do you want us to do about it ? Some of the lake guys want to shut the tribs down . Shortsighted and selfish . If someone could wave a magic wand and make all the bad trib stuff going away , how much better will the lake fishing be ? I see guys with boat loads of fish . Bubba ain't hurtin the lake fishing one bit . The original question on this thread was why the reg change . Yankee said it was Bull and I asked why . GAMBLER said to appease the trib guys . So if it goes through , a,three man charter with captain and mate can keep 10 steelhead . What , that's not enough ? And maybe instead of a 7# average , they are 10 . With what was said at the state of the lake and what is going on with the pens , it's a power struggle IMO.

In my opinion over the last many years with much discussion on this subject , my summation on this is that it is a power struggle .