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  1. Lucky13
    Isn't the water a lot colder than normal for this time of year? Don't the alewive come in from the deep lake when the nearshore warms up? It's just early, be thankful they are not finding a lot of bait or they might not be eating lures!
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    The fatty tissue advise is applicable to lipid soluble compounds that then bioaccumulate in the fat of the fish. Mercury accumulates in the muscle. Mercury is also something you don’t want to accumulate, once it is in you it is pretty much there to stay. Finally, while the limits set are fine for adult males, women and children can be adversely affected by much smaller concentrations of hazardous chemicals. So should eat no fish from any lake with any advisory.
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    "Pacific salmon (mainly Chinook and Coho Salmon) were stocked beginning in 1968 to suppress an overabundant Alewife population, provide a recreational fishery, and restore predator-prey balance to the fish community." Lake Ontario Fish Community Objectives 2013
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    Tanner in Michigan and his followers were not the first to attempt to establish Pacific Salmon in the Great Lakes, numerous attempts had been made starting in the mid-19th century. They did recognize that they were faced with an out of balance system where biomass was concentrated in one low level species (alewife) and top level predators (Lake Trout) had been nearly eliminated by a combination of overfishing, habitat degradation, and invasive lamprey. They are to be applauded for attempting to introduce a novel top level predator, especially in the face of past failure, to take advantage of the ballooned alewife population. Here in New York, control of alewife was certainly at the forefront of reasons given to justify an action that has had profound environmental impacts (and while all we hear about are the positives, there are quite a few negatives to these introductions pointed out by critics of these introductions , see “Salmonine Introductions to the Laurentian Great Lakes Canadian Special Publication of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences No. 132 An Historical Review and Evaluation of Ecological Effects”).
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    I would say that that depends on the structure of the Tournament. If the organization is a 501c (3) Not for Profit, then there should be a defined salary structure for employees of the corporation, and anything over that should be devoted to the mission of the Not for Profit. That said, aren’t there a ton of Not for Profits out there that pay their director’s nearly obscene wages? Think of Channel 21 NPR in Rochester where the CEIO makes at least 275K per year and they are still out at least twice a year with their hands out for donations, even with taxpayer support. And HMO’s are” Not for Profit”, but execs are making beaucoup dollars. I was never crazy about Schleyer, because he basically walked off with the tournament that had been set up as a Not for Profit with the Rochester Schools and converted it to his own little money making machine. But I think the current LOC is a standard business, so why should they have to give back more than what the pay in taxes? Should Charter captains have to give back part of the daily fee because they are using a public resource for commercial gain? An operation like Barcley’s might be being taxed as waterfront property at a higher rate, but should he also be limited in what he can make? As to specific definition, the bill is worded so if you come up with a new contest outside of what is being done now involving wildlife (already defined in the law for those who can or will read), it is prohibited.
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    Promotion of the fishery can be something as simple as the signs that went up on the Salmon River a couple of years ago that came down on littering. I could be wrong but my sense last fall when I went up after Columbus Day was that it was a lot cleaner after the salmon brawl in September and early October than it had been in prior years. Making bathrooms available and letting people know where they are could help a LOT with relations with the village people. And focusing more Law Enforcement would certainly go a long way, although most “bad apples” now are not outright snagging , but are more subtly lining and lifting, and LE has been taking a conservative approach to the “Letter of the Law.” Maybe it is time to have a State of the Tributaries Meeting, as the tribs generally get somewhat short shift at the SOL meetings, but certainly I would expect to hear a lot of these comment s on April 11 at 6:30 PM at Pulaski High School.
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    " We got here three hours before it was legal to be here, and left for lunch at the Altmar, but now that we have finished our 6 beers and an order of fries, we are back and it is our spot because we were here first."
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    http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/lawssrch.cgi?NVLWO: This proposal only applies to wildlife Fish are NOT Wildlife. Fish and Wildlife Law has a section of definitions and the actual law (11-0103 6.a.) reads: “6. a. "Wildlife" means wild game and all other animal life existing in a wild state, except fish, shellfish and crustacea.”
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    I want to point out that what Rick said about lake fishers getting their limit and going in and stopping fishing may be true of charter operators who might be able to get a 6 hour trip done in 3 and pick up another at the docks, but there were a lot of hero shots and double digit C+R tales told on this website starting with BrownTrout fishers last February, and continuing right up until the kings started getting tight lips in August, and then they were offshore steelhead hero shots and big boxes, and there are a lot more boats out there than just the charter operators. Both groups (trib and lake) have their sore arm facebook junkies! Every steelhead that goes back in the river is in better shape for the future than the one that went into the trunk of a jersey wagon. When the thiamenase problem reared up, reports came right in of deads in the river and the estuary, this is not happening with the droppies, and I caught a few last spring and they were in surprisingly good condition and silvering up fast after spawning. And a lot of them get tagged by Brown fishers trolling off the tribs, how do you deal with that extra stress?
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    A lot of people who work in science for government are exempt from the overtime provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act, so while they may accrue the hours, it will be as straight time, not time and a half. Hats off to Steve Hurst, though, he was driving back to Albany after the meeting. These guys are hardworking civil servants, and the ambitious plans and “outcomes” presented last night will have them working even harder.
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    Bill Hilts jr will likely write it up for NY Outdoor News, or Davis Figura will have one in the Syracuse paper.
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    C'mon, Jerry you can read! The proposal says Wildlife, and that excludes fish. Even the Vegans exclude insects, every time a plow runs down a furrow in a carrot field, worms and other insects die! Your fly elimination program is likely safe forever. Even the most rabid “you can’t kill anything” nuts take their antibiotics!
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    Lots of folks eat at McDonald's, too!
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    I AM getting a bit long in the tooth! I hunted in my late teens and early twenties in eastern southern tier, I had access to a lot of private land, a loaner shotgun, and a landlord who had a freezer I could use. When I moved back to Monroe County, I had only the public land (and Stid Hill and High Tor get “slightly” crowded LOL), no firearm, no freezer, and VERY limited financial resources. As I got older and my bank account grew to where I could afford to go, my job responsibilities and family got in the way, and I had also developed a great liking for fall steelhead fishing, which at least used to peak during southern tier deer season. I have since become involved in an organization that leases a large chunk of ground in the Tug Hill (not to mention the huge amount of state and county land that is available for hunting up there), I have more time as I am retired, and fall steelhead fishing has been less than stellar. The main thing slowing me down now is acquiring all the necessary gear, and I made the incorrect assumption that because my wife used to hunt, she would have no problem with me keeping firearms in the house. SO when I find a solution to that obstacle, I’ll get back out up north and maybe even try some of the spots I’ve learned about over the years here in WNY. A shag season might tip the scales in my favor, I hear they are even better than planked merganser or Driving Park Salmon!!!
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    So, the guy with his pants not pulled up has created a negative attitude toward people who don’t like belts (), that is exactly my point. If you hang a bear in your front yard, you will likely create a bad attitude in the minds of at least some people who drive by your house. I recently read something where the writer spoke about the people who hang their deer at deer camp so they can see whose is biggest. Obviously this writer had no idea about the work that goes into hanging the deer, or the need to quickly cool the meat, or the need to get it up off the ground, or even that the weight is less important to most hunters concerned with the “trophy” aspect than the rack size. If we continue to allow this kind of ignorance to exist, we have only ourselves to blame when the ignorant come to take our “rights” (and the Constitution says you can keep and bear arms but says nothing about hunting). The largest majority of the general population is on the fence about hunting, and the hunting safety instructor is making the point that if our actions, such as posting facebook pictures of a dead baboon or that “cute little mountain lion” we just gutted, push some of the fence sitters into the PETA camp, we are doing all sportsmen a disservice. All the guys dragging black salmon with the milt and eggs oozing all over the sidewalks of Pulaski have pretty much turned the town off to all “fishheads”, and most of the locals only see those guys and the litterers, etc, when they see someone with a fishing rod. The fact that you are allowed by Freedom of Speech to employ a lot of four letter words loudly in public does not equate to everyone being required to elevate you to the same level of respect as a preacher or an orator, people may still decide that you are a crass low life who doesn’t pull up his pants. Same thing for the people who want to beat their chests showing off the “dark side” of the hunting experience, the person they turn off today is the person who will be voting to curtail their activities down the road. If Trump had been tweeting a lot of what he’s tweeted since being in the Whitehouse during the campaign, we might be calling Hillary the President, regardless of his “ Freedom of Speech” to say what he wants. And as my father always pointed out when I played the “FofS” card, you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater.
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    No, I don't hunt (yet) for anything, just thanks for posting it!
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    Thanks, Jerry!
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    I can see that eating 130 squirrels would not be much of a problem. Those 100 woodchucks might be a little more difficult, even if the competition did a great service to the farmers who have less potential for livestock (or themselves) with broken bones.
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    http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/lawssrch.cgi?NVLWO: JustTracyTrolling is correct. This proposal only applies to wildlife. Fish and Wildlife Law has a section of definitions and the actual law (11-0103 6.a.) reads: “6. a. "Wildlife" means wild game and all other animal life existing in a wild state, except fish, shellfish and crustacea.” It does appear that it would end the Coyote and Squirrel contests. I stopped hunting about 40 years ago, but recently wanted to start again, so I took the course again in fall 2017. A fair amount of time was given by both the instructor and the ECO who came to one session to the necessity of hunters presenting themselves and their sport in the best possible light, avoiding things like tying a dead animal to the hood (used to be required!) or stopping off at the local Wegman’s wearing the clothes you bloodied up gutting an animal, etc. I believe it may have been the dumpster full of rotting carp at the boat launch that ended the bowshoot on Irondequoit Bay (but I’ll stand corrected if I am wrong, although I knew quite a few people in Sea Breeze that were pretty outraged by the stench.) The average citizen may not be at all aware of the potential damage to pets, and even eventually children, an expanding coyote population could present, and likely has no idea that the best time to hunt them is at night, but if they see or hear the “cuffs and collars” story of the Hamlin guys busted for hunting them from a motor vehicle with multiple unsecured firearms, they are likely not going to have the best impression of the remainder of the coyote hunters who are likely pursuing their quarry exactly as proscribed in the regulations. And braggadocio about blood sports ends up being a really good way for us to shoot ourselves in the foot with the general public as many others have pointed out, not the wisest approach in the modern world.
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    I have not seen SUNY Bingo in 40 years! Study of deer effects on reforestation should be easy right out back in what used to be the nature preserve. I’ve been planning to go down and visit a classmate who just moved back to Binghamton after 40 years on the west coast, but the roller coaster weather has kept me off the roads. Gambler points out the runoff, please remember that there are very few waterbodies around with a population concentrations upstream like the Greece ponds, and Monroe County and towns are the road salt capital of the world. Another possible factor is that the ponds iced over early, and then got that insulating blanket of snow, while some of the later freezers got good exposure to the deep freezes.. But two year old sewage has been reduced to CO2 and H20 a long time ago. I would suggest that this would be a good question to pose to our friends out at SUNY Brockport, the Env Sci bunch is always looking for good questions for graduate students to answer.
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    Oh, OK, that “stuff.” That was two years ago. When I was in college in Binghamton, the Johnson City WWTP used to regularly discharge untreated sewage to the Susquehanna. We would get warnings to eat no fish from the Endicott side downstream as far as Owego ( ~20 miles). Dr. Bruce McDuffy was the professor who discovered all the mercury in tunafish, he came in and did a lecture on environmental problems of state and local governments for a course I was taking, and I asked him about those discharges and how could it be safe to eat the fish in such a short time (no more than 2 days time of travel by river to Owego.) He talked about assimilative capacity, which is the ability of a water body to heal itself after an “insult” like the discharge. Sewage is assimilated pretty quickly, as the natural bacteria “ eat it right up”, what is happening in a controlled environment in a WWTP. Those discharges from 2 years ago are long gone, likely also all the material that came down Northrup Creek for all those years as well, except for the phosphorus adsorbed to all the sediment. Where Sewage discharges are deadly to a water body is when the amount of material and rate of discharge exceed the ability of the receiving body to dissolve oxygen, which then becomes depleted, and then all the oxygen breathers die. But that is rapid, like a few years back when the delivery tanker hooked up to the wrong spigot in Warsaw and dumped molasses into Oatka creek, killing all the fish from there downstream to Leroy over the next day or so. Sugar has a very high Biochemical Oxygen Demand, just like sewage. I am surprised that there is any ice left on those ponds after the temperatures from Saturday around noon until Sunday PM, and the winds since then, melting, evaporation and sublimation got most of the snow pack, and after seeing what the winds did to the Niagara River ice, I’m surprised so many things around here stayed at least a little locked up.
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    'Splain please?
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    This is just a proposal now, comments until 2/28, if you don’t find Gill-T’s post go to the DEC website. It will not become effective if adopted until 2020.
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    DEC Announces "State of Lake Ontario" Meetings Biologists to Provide Updates on the Status of Lake's Fisheries The public will have the opportunity to learn about the State of Lake Ontario fisheries at public meetings to be held in Niagara, Monroe, Oswego and Schenectady counties in March, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos announced today. "Lake Ontario and its tributaries provide world-class angling opportunities that are generating substantial recreational and economic benefits to towns and cities along the lake," Commissioner Seggos said. "The State of Lake Ontario meetings provide an excellent opportunity for everyone interested in the lake to interact with the scientists who study and manage its fisheries." New York's Lake Ontario waters comprise more than 2.7 million acres. The open lake, embayments, and tributaries support thriving populations of sportfish, including trout, salmon, bass, walleye, yellow perch, and panfish. A recent statewide angler survey estimated more than 2.6 million angler days were spent on Lake Ontario and major tributaries, resulting in an estimated economic value of $112 million annually to local communities. The meeting dates and locations are: Monday, March 4: 6:30 - 9 p.m. at the Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) campus (Chester F Carlson Center for Imaging Science), Rochester, Monroe County. The meeting is co-hosted by RIT and the Monroe County Fishery Advisory Board. Thursday, March 7: 6:30 - 9 p.m. at the Cornell Cooperative Extension Building, 4487 Lake Ave., Lockport, Niagara County. The meeting is co-hosted by Niagara County Cooperative Extension and the Niagara County Sportfishery Development Board. Thursday, March 14: 6:30 - 9 p.m. at SUNY Schenectady County Community College, Stockade Building, Room 101, 78 Washington Ave., Schenectady, Schenectady County. Tuesday, March 19: 6:30 - 9 p.m. at the Pulaski High School auditorium, 4624 Salina St., Pulaski, Oswego County. The meeting is co-hosted by the Eastern Lake Ontario Salmon and Trout Association. Staff from DEC and the United States Geological Survey will make a number of presentations, including updates on the status of trout and salmon fisheries in the lake and its tributaries, forage fish, and stocking programs. The meetings will provide ample time at the end of the scheduled program for the audience to ask questions and interact with the presenters. Information about DEC's Lake Ontario fisheries assessment programs can be found on DEC's website. For further information contact Christopher Legard, NYSDEC Lake Ontario Unit Leader at the Cape Vincent Fisheries Research Station, (315) 654-2147. http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/press.html
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