Lucky13

Wouldn't they also be difficult to see, too, then? 10 lbs of chrome is going to show up on the bottom of most of the holes on IC, now that the flows are down.

I walked a fair piece of the lower creek yesterday and saw no deads. The creek has been at flood stage lately, but I've never seen a lot of deads associated with that in the past. Where are these fish collecting? It would be good to report it to NYSDEC.

What size are they?

They are different genus. I don't find anything in the literature about hybridization between the two species, But if the Salmo Salar become established as " wild stock" they could compete with the native Onchorynchus for food and habitat, in the same way that the non native Onchorynchus could compete with the native slamo salar in the Gaspe streams. From the State of Washington website: Fish management issues of escaped Atlantic salmon Existing biological data strongly suggests that escaped Atlantic salmon do not pose significant risk to native fish populations, based on research outlined in a 1999 report. Among the concerns addressed in that report: Competition: Evidence indicates non-native salmon species do not compete well against native species. Only a small percentage of Atlantic salmon recovered from marine waters have preyed on fish; there have been no observations of Atlantic salmon eating fish or fish eggs in fresh water. Predation: There is no evidence of predation by Atlantic salmon in fresh water, and only limited evidence in salt water. Most recovered Atlantic salmon have had empty stomachs. Disease transfer: Consideration was given to the transfer of fish pathogens from captive and escaped Atlantic salmon to native salmon stocks. There is no evidence indicating disease transfer from Atlantic salmon to native Pacific salmon. Fish pathogens infecting Atlantic salmon are endemic to Washington and appear to come from native fish stocks. Hybridization: The risk of escaped Atlantic salmon hybridizing with Pacific salmon is low. Research has demonstrated it is very difficult, even under optimal laboratory conditions, to cross-breed Pacific and Atlantic salmon and produce viable offspring. Should this rare event occur in the wild, the offspring would be functionally sterile and incapable of reproducing. Colonization: Evidence suggests this is unlikely. Attempts to establish Atlantic salmon outside the Atlantic Ocean have failed, and accidental releases of juvenile Atlantic salmon have not produced adults. Evidence on Vancouver Island indicates escaped Atlantic salmon have been able to produce juvenile Atlantic salmon, but there is no evidence that these "wild" Atlantic salmon have returned to their natal stream and successfully spawned.

I don't belei9ve I read anything about "advocating for removing Pacific Salmon from the Great Lakes" here, this post was about escape of Atlantic Salmon from fish farms on the west coast. I know they are a little worried about similar impacts down on the Gaspe Peninsula from Cohos that leave LO and then run up Atlantic Salmon streams, but other than that, I have heard nothing about actually stopping the Pacific Salmon program, although there are biologists and others who feel the negatives of the introduction should be considered, and think Native species restoration is the ultimate end of all this.

The West Coast is British Columbia, a very different province than Ontario.

Wegman's sells frozen farm raised Atlantic Salmon for, like, $15.99 for a 2 lb bag. If you are paying less than about 15.00 per lb for any salmon, it is likely farm raised. Wild Caught coho was over 20.00 per lb at Palmer's in Henrietta last year. Caveat: We're talking west coast wild caught fish from the ocean, not Genesee River falls mudshark sold on Fulton Street in NYC!