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His question is, and mine too: Do you always put a flasher or spin doctor in front of the lure, on every line, or can you just tie on the lure on some lines? Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I am going to rig 2 colors of lead for an SWR to use off my downrigger. I plan to use the sea flee line on the reel. The thing is, I use open face spinning reels for my downriggers, since they don't require a line counter. I use the level wind reels for the dipseys, and a 10 color lead core. The open face reel is a Penn conflict 8000, huge reel. I hope this works.

I do not understand what is meant by the lake turning over, and such. Can someone who has knowledge of this please explain it, and what is different than what we have had over the last month (July). Thank You.

Great advice everyone. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Best knot I have ever used, and easy to tie, Is the crazy Alberto knot. Google it. Way better than blood not IMHO. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I also wonder if the speed is to make the lure have the correct action, or is it the preference of the fish? It seems that you could use different lures, some that have action at higher speeds and some that have action at lower speeds, and you could always have a lure that is generating some action-movement, as the speed down at depth varies.

ah, yeah, pretty tough as I have discovered too, with no probe. But we keep trying, and we catch some once in a while, but so far no 25 pounders!

I use a crazy alberto knot, (Alberto Knie) by far the best and easiest I have ever used for joining two lines together. I use the palomar for tying to swivels or hooks.

I shortened mine from 4 ft. It was difficult to set lines compared to my shorter down rigger. The next trip my prop cut the cable. Motor is on that side. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I use the Chinook diver, so I'm not sure how that equates to the dipsey brand. I assume the weight discussion is the same, put the weight towards the boat, which seems backwards, but when I was using them the other day I thought they were going the wrong way . Maybe that explains it. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Paul, I met you at the lotsa meeting. You gave a good presentation. I'll consider taking a charter as a shortcut to learning all this on my own. It is good advice for sure, and I actually thought about it before. I'll start budgeting for that. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

I'm Using 10 colors of lead core, with a cowbell (or spin doctor) and a spoon and it has caught me some nice steelhead this year. 5" cowbell was working great until it broke in half on a nice one. Ordered some more. I find it easy to use, and the reel does not have to be as HUGE as it takes for 300 or 400 copper. I tried, and had to take the copper back because I couldn't even get the 300 copper on, let alone the backing The 45 Okuma I had allowed lead to go on with a good amount of backing. I think 10 colors will get down about 50 feet per the package, but as someone said, no way to know for sure. What I have read is the leadcore actually undulates up and down in the water column up and down, so you are covering a range of depth.

I won't be able to get out until the weekend after next try all the advice. Out of town this week, then when I get home I have to change the prop seals in my 9.9 evinrude, its leaking. I will try to apply what was said here and see if we do better. There is some difference in opinion on the temperature importance. From that, I will use it as a reference or starting point, and keep looking for big fish on the FF, but we have not seen many.

When you say flashers do you mean 10 inch or 13" paddles? Or spin doctors,? I have some atomic flies I can try again but I never caught anything on them. I have caught fish on spoons, meat, and brad killer baits. I just ordered a fish hawk TD, so I can know what temps are below the boat. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app