hard knox

Was reading Dan Keating big water wisdom and he mentioned browns liked higher speeds . got me thinking could I run my optimizers for them they don't start working until 3.2 mph and up. When I run them I pull only them they can do some damage on steelhead and kings on the right day.

So I normally fish for browns at a range from 1.8mph to 2.5 but recently read that browns like steelhead like much higher speeds . when I an offshore in search mode for kings and steelhead I run optimizers at 3.7 to 4.0 mph and do very well. What do you think a max speed could be for a good summer time Brown bight?

I signed up for seatech and got explores guide service witch turned into a total nightmare .it was bad the best thing that happened was covid hit and we started doing it by webex witch sucked but caused me to total teach my self .i ended up doing way better then I could have imagined doing if instructors were relied on . what ever you decide there are some great YouTube videos on Captains classes there is a younger guy doing a bunch of nav videos that are really good .good luck

620 ,650 is depth curve so 650 feet of water and 37 to 4.0 mph is my down speed at probe i run two programs one is with mag and stinger spoons at speeds from 2.0 to 3.0 mph and the other program is 3.7 to 4.2 with OPTIMIZERS spoons i let weather and fish tell me witch one to run . I could not say if its common or not within the fleet but i dont follow the masses i find what works for me and go with it and do well most of the time . AND YES SPEED KILLS !

Took the wife and 2 beagles to Oswego for a little fishing got a late start due to lack of sleep night before dogs were not to keen about sleeping in a boat with all the sloshing going on and the go fast boats coming in at all hours of the night . Got started around 9 am really did not find any king action but found a half a dozen nice steelies one the 250 curve stayed with for a few hours then the bight switched to bump offs then shut down .Went back to the dock and got some lunch and rest hit the water again from 5 pm till sunset looking for browns found a good pocket of browns just east of yellow marker in 60 feet of water landed a dozen and lost a few more .Hit the water around 6 next morning and went straight out to the 620 looking for steelies as i have a good spot out there was a slow start so started working out deeper on the 650 found a couple birds and bait on a current line and game on landed 4 kings lost 3 and a half a dozen bump offs then headed in by 11.00 .Took all are steelies on the 250 down 100 feet at 3.7 to 4.0 mph and all king came from 650 down 85 at the same speeds browns were 55 down at 2.4 in 60 feet of water and all fish were spoon bights .Me and the wife had a great time my off the grid dogs not so much they like to chase chipmunks ,mice ,birds and any other small creature the can find they even treed a woodchuck the other day did no they could climb a tree lol.

Well all vessels out there should be treating each other with respect some guys just dont get it and think they own the place . The next time hail them on vhf witch they are required by law to monitor at all times and ask them to please maintain a safe distance . If they are abeam of you they are a give way vessel and must give way by law that being said if that does not work pull all your lines set your riggers at 100 feet and wipe out ever line they got that will likely get your point across . I have fished for many years for bluefin out of NEWENGLAND and you learn to try and be nice first and when that dosnt work stand your ground . GOOD LUCK AND TIGHT LINES !