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Back in the 1990's I ran a lot of Dodger spoon combos last year I picked up some Sutton hemlock spinners for live Bait and the Browns loved Sawbellies on them behind a small dodger.
Pappy
Try that spinner or an O&M spinner ,same thing, with the frozen sawbelly for the kings off your downrigger with a long lead.